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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #18 on: Monday 05 August 13 12:50 BST (UK) »
Chris/Rob et al
I think I may have made contact through facebook with a Richard W Stuart who flew for TWA in the 70's so possibly a son. I've also traced a C Y Hovey to Saskatchewan and have contacted the local entymology (insects!) association where he was a member in 1953 to see if it is the same chap and if any relatives are in the area.

Long shots, but that's about all we have left!
BBC Radio Essex have been sent the links to these threads in the hope they will add this info to the appeal for Scudder relatives in Southend area.

Chris: Do you want to contact the Evening Echo in Southend, it's your ball I'm throwing around, so you should be the "lead" for Rob!

We're still drawing blanks on the Bellingham, Hastings and Lockhart families in Canada, can you RootsChatters reach there better than me? Any Canadian chums?

EDIT: Just received email response from the American Ex PoW Association but all that adds is State of Residence New York and liberated/repatriated 14 July 1945.

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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #19 on: Monday 05 August 13 13:25 BST (UK) »

BELLINGER, WILLIAM GEORGE. Rank: Flying Officer. Trade: Nav. Service No: J/13120. Date of Death: 29/09/1943. Age: 21.
Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force. 434 Sqdn.
Grave Reference: Grave 207. Cemetery: ENSCHEDE EASTERN GENERAL CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Harold D. and Elvera L. Bellinger, of Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
(Died in hospital of leg wounds) Loss Card shows him as bomb aimer, but crew member(s) say Navigator

More info on William Bellinger from Canadian overseas deaths.
Birth 15 July 1922 Saskatchewan, Canada
Death 29 Sept 1943
single
Canadian, racial origin German
Profession Navigator RCAF. Total years in this occupation 2
Residence 772 Dougall Ave, Windsor, Ontario
Parents Harold Diebel Bellinger & Vera Louise Deppistch, both born Ontario.

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Cause of death: Previously reported missing after air operations, now for official purposes, presumed dead. 
The document is not dated.

Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #20 on: Monday 05 August 13 14:07 BST (UK) »
Kevin, I'm quite happy for you to sort out an appeal in the Southend Echo or other local publications. Once I've received the death certificate I'll scan it and send it to you by e-mail.

I don't know whether you've used the main e-mail address for BBC Essex but I was given Dave Monks contact as: essex.monk@bbc.co.uk
 
If you're happy keeping him in the loop as well that's fine by me as well.

There is also another method I thought of worth considering to trace family. Looking on a map of Meadow Rd in Hadleigh where the father lived (address produced by EnglandPhil on WW2talk - well done Phil) we could leaflet the houses to see if anyone remembers the family?


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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #21 on: Monday 05 August 13 14:43 BST (UK) »
I've noticed there has been more info posted for Ivan Arthur Lewis Lockhart on ww2talk.  I have just spotted an ancestry tree showing a photo of what appears to be Ivan as a baby with his grandfather.  I will contact the tree owner, although they don't appear to have been active for some time.

It shows a spouse and 3 children, 1 female, 2 male - all private

Jool
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton


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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #22 on: Monday 05 August 13 14:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that.
The RAF Loss Card clearly shows as JAL, but the PoW records were IAL.
So we can concentrate on the Ivan Arthur Lewis chap.
Must admit I haven't checked WW2Talk today, been busy tracing on facebook and elsewhere.

Have emailed Castle Point sub editor on Southend Evening Echo to alert him here and elsewhere.
Thanks again to all for your assistance for Chris's appeal.
Leafleting would need someone in the area, I no longer am.

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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #23 on: Monday 05 August 13 15:34 BST (UK) »
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Bertram Thomas Henry Scudder
« Reply #25 on: Monday 05 August 13 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hi all, came across this website, maybe Rob could contact them with details of the search for Bertram's family.  The link below says they have old photos of victory parties in Hadleigh including Meadow Road where Bertram's father lived.

http://www.hadleighhistory.org.uk/page_id__436_path__0p17p.aspx
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Very good news..
« Reply #26 on: Monday 05 August 13 18:48 BST (UK) »
Dear all Scudder searchers,

Iam happy to announce that I have got contact with Scudder relatives.
Mr. Geoffrey Norman Pain from Australia and Carla Taylor from the UK sent me emails.

Carla: yes Bertram is my mothers cousin, Geoff mum Sylvia and my nan are sisters. Another interesting fact about Bertram you might want to know King Alfred the Great king of England in 867 was Bertrams 31st great grandfather direct down the blood line so there is a lot of royalty in the family early on.Carla

Thanks a lot if you where one of the forum-posters!
Because we are so succesfull in such a short time (4 days) since my radio interview, I have also set out information to Canadian radiostations. People close to the military in Canada are already helping and finding out information on three other crewmembers.
If you like, you can help me on these ones. The information is much better, as 2 of the 3 guys lived a long life after the war:

1) Flight Officer W.G. (William George) Bellinger Navigator, Royal Canadian Airforce 434 Sqdn. Crashed and died 29 September 1943, Age 21. Son of Harold D. en Elvera L. Bellinger, from Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
 
2) P/O C.T. Hovey
He was a busdriver for years in Niagara Falls, Canada. Must be somewhere relatives living. Heard he
passed away a few years ago.
 
3) P/O G. Hastings
Unfortunately not much information about this navigator.

Rob