BREEN-LIVERPOOL

[redkop]

Hi,

I have a Peter Breen b 1907, Liverpool. His parents were Peter Breen and Mary Rogers, and he married Ann Rosenthall.

I am trying to find more information on his father, Peter (b 1886, ?where), also his wife's family of Rosenthall.

Hi wife Ann's mother and father were Andrew James Rosenthall and Margaret McQuiggan.
Andrew's father was either James John or John James. I would like to know where he was born and when. Also, with a name like that, could the family have been immigrants?

Any information you can find would be very welcome.

T.I.A.

Red   

[lizdb]

Have youfound the family in 1911? Sorry we cant do look ups.
Where does Peter senior say he was born?

I see the Peter Breen/Mary Rogers marriage was in 1903. If yr of birth is 1886, then he would only be 17.
The marriage cert would give his fathers name.

[miriamkinga]

Marriage for Andrew J Rosenthall Sept qtr 1903 Toxteth Park vol 9b page 468 one of possible spouses is Margaret McQuiggan.

[miriamkinga]

Death for Andrew March qtr 1929 Liverpool vol 8b page 301. Aged 51 so date of birth c.1878.

[suzard]

wonder if this is him??

1901
47 Leyden St Kirkdale Lancs
John P Breen head M 46 Vulcaniser (Rubber Works) Ireland
Annie wife 42 Ireland
PETER son U 20 able seaman Ireland
Miles J son 14 worker (tobacco factory) Liverpool Lancs
Annie daughter 8 Liverpool
RG13 3470 16 23

Dorset England Crew Lists
27/1/1900
Port Weymouth
Ship: Lizzie
Peter Breen 19 b. Wexford Ireland Able Seaman

On 1911 index he seems to be on a ship

There is another peter Breen b.c.same time Liverpool but he seems to be in prison at the time of the census.

Marriage cert would give father's name and occupation
1911 census should show whether this Peter was married or not

Suz

[miriamkinga]

Possible on the 1881 census in Liverpool - ref RG11, piece 3615, folio 78, page 59

Mary Rosenthal, widow, 26 charwoman b Liverpool
Andrew Rosenthal, 3 b Liverpool
Mary Rook, mother 44, widow b Sheffield
plus associated boarders

can't see a Rook/ Rosenthall marriage though 

[suzard]

this looks like Andrew James and Margaret's marriage -
Catholic

19 Juli 1903
Andrew Jacobum Rosenthall 6 Mosley St
filium Jacobi et Margaritan McQuiggan
"witnesses"
Joanne Laverty 6 Mosley St
Anna Platts? 61 Luke |St

Suz

[Blue70]

Here's the marriage of Andrew's parents:-

Date: 27 Oct 1875
Church: St James, Toxteth
Groom: John Rosenthal, 37, Batchelor, Carpenter
Father: Andrew Rosenthal, Carpenter
Bride: Mary Rock, 23, Spinster
Father: James Rock, Grainer?
Witness 1: Charles Grant
Witness 2: Mary ?


Blue

[miriamkinga]

Rock not Rook - well spotted Blue