Lanni 1891 census Walsll or Wolverhampton

[weste]

There 2 births in wolvo  viatricia which you've mentioned but there's also a Antonio lanni born injune quart 1888. Viatricia lanni was born dec quart 1893. They don't even come on the census particular viatricia if you just put her first name and birth year and place of birth for the 1901.

[weste]

Oxford was mentioned and it has Tomasso and Francesco in the Michael mass quarter sessions oct 17 th 1892 sentenced to one month imprisonment and hard labour for unlawful wounding.

[derekseanbrown]

It was the group in 1881 in Oxford but I haven't seen mentioned a group with no names in Oxford in 1891.....what does the Oxford 1891 census say?

Sean

[derekseanbrown]

I see...you're referring to Willow's message.....I missed that completely!
Sean

[derekseanbrown]

What was the address in Oxford where the Italians were on the 1891 census?

Thanks
Sean

[weste]

There may be some attestations at the oxford county archives, witness statements which go with case. You've got the date now and you could ask. They would charge for any copies but just checking their catalogue they should n't. You could see if anyone on the oxford board would be prepared to do a look up. Also newspaper/journal account mentioned there may be more than one newspaper that carried an account.

[rosie99]

What was the address in Oxford where the Italians were on the 1891 census?

Thanks
Sean

There are a lot of Italian people listed at an address in Oxfordshire listed as 'not known'

See RG12/1169/4/1

Pietro was one of twins Dominica born 1880 and died 1881 Birmingham

Willow x

The address is the Marlborough Arms, 5 High Street Oxford
One italian family that is named is an Organ grinder the rest are Musicians

[weste]

I take it you have seen the tree online called Washington family tree with pictures of tomasso and Francesco and there is an article entitled lanni's story. I think that's where the Worcester icecream bit came from.

[derekseanbrown]

Thanks rosie99 for info about the Marlborough Arms......that will on my visiting list for the near future.
and yes waste I have recently made contact with the owner of the Washington tree on ancestry but I'm really interested in the grey period before Francesco Lanni set up his ice-cream business in Worcester. The time he and his father roamed the Midlands as Organ grinders. Trouble is, when you start these family researches I seem to be drawn off down other avenues and get the urge to go into more of the social and commercial history of the times. Still, I guess that's what makes research so interesting. 

Sean