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Offline AlexStewart

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Re: Elizabeth from DEAN
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 August 13 21:45 BST (UK) »
Alex; So what is the relationship of Ann Colson to Ruth Colson ? You say that explains it, so what info do you have?
As Ann Colson is found in 1841 at 80 living in High Street, Rushden with John Bays and Elizabeth Bays, the daughter of William Burgess and Ruth Colson, it is reasonable to assume that Ann may well be in close relationship to Elizabeth's mother Ruth. By the word explain I simply meant it may well account for the reason she was there with them. As  she is about 80 in 1841 she must have been born around 1760. I note that Ruth was admitted to the Old Baptist Church at Rushden in 1791, so it is quite possible they were related but I do not know what the precise relationship was.
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 17 August 13 08:12 BST (UK) »
On the Rushden heritage site they have a link to the Old Baptist Church book where it lists the members, on page 273 Elizabeth Burgess joined 26/06/1808 and died 11/02/1844, buried 12/02/1844.

Think she is Elizabeth Burgis aged 55 on 1841 census living in Little Street Rushden, who has death index in Wellingborough RD in Mar 1844 .... however the baptist church entry would have joined/baptised date in the child's name so if the entry is correct she did not marry ?   Seeing as she was born 1786 she may well have joined the baptist church after her marriage to a Mr Burgess
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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 17 August 13 08:56 BST (UK) »
There is a burial entry at the Old Baptist Church of Ann Colson on 17 May 1846 that tallies with the death index in Wellingborough RD in June 1846. So if Ann is Elizabeth Burgess's mother - assumed to be Ruth Colson, who was admitted into Baptist Church on 4 Oct 1791 then we're looking for marriage of a male Colson to an Ann born c 1761 prior to this ? As Ruth married William Burgess in 1802 she must have been born prior to her admission to Baptist church in 1791. Also William was born 1768 so I would expect wife Ruth so be born 1775 onwards
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Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Elizabeth from DEAN
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 17 August 13 10:44 BST (UK) »
....next.... after William Burgess of Upper Dean burial on 25 Mar 1824 age 56 (he died of small pox - as per Dean burial register) interestingly there's a Rushden marriage on 5 June 1827 of Ruth Burgess to Thomas Smith. Transcript does not state spinster nor widow
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Re: Elizabeth from DEAN
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 17 August 13 22:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your points about William's death through smallpox. I appreciated also the
points made about Ruth Colson's second marriage and those about Ann Colson and the Baptist
Church.
Alex
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