Elizabeth from DEAN

[AlexStewart]

I note that John Bayes married Elizabeth on 25 Dec 1834 at St Mary's, Rushden.
In the census material of 1851 and 1861 Elizabeth was from Dean or Upper Dean.
From one of the online databases I note that Elizabeth Burgess married John Bayes on
Christmas Day in 1834. However, I cannot find any firm reference to a birth or christening
for an Elizabeth Burgess in Dean. Is anyone able to discover her there or would she be found
in a larger parish nearby?
Alex

[CaroleW]

Can you include details of her birthyear please

[bedfordshire boy]

One of the Ancestry trees has a document evidencing the birth of their son William in Rushden on 19 Sep 1835 where Elizabeth's father was named as William Burgess, tailor. As this was a dissenters' document filed at Dr Williams' Library there's every chance that Elizabeth's family were dissenters too, so her baptism may not have been in an established church.

The NBI on www.findmypast.com shows a burial of William Burgess in Dean in 1824 aged 56, plus various children in Dean, the dates of which can be established by trial and error. Censuses show possible siblings of Elizabeth, but there are no baptisms in Dean on the IGI around 1800. I think you need to research all Burgesses from Dean to try to establish the mother's name to see if you find their marriage - there is a possibility on the IGI at Yelden which adjoins Dean, in 1790. But I can't see a burial at Dean of a possible wife of William.

[AlexStewart]

Thank you for those replies. I estimate Elizabeth's birth as 1808 or 1809.
If she became Elizabeth Bayes in 1834 in Rushden, we can expect to find them living
in Northamptonshire. I believe there is evidence that she died in Rushden in 1863.
Your point about dissenters is a good one, although after 1834 the Bayes family are
connected with the established church.
There is evidence of a brother born in Dean who turns up in Raunds near Rushden who
is connected with a tailor there, so that would fit your point about William Burgess.
Thank you for the point about Yelden. I will look at other villages near by.
AS

[bedfordshire boy]

..... although after 1834 the Bayes family are connected with the established church.

but clearly the Bayes family were still dissenters when the birth of their son William was registered in 1835

[AlexStewart]

You are right. I should have checked information from a Bayes descendant. The marriage in 1834
was at St Mary's, Rushden, but William's christening is not listed there in 1835. Their son James was married there in 1860, but I will now check what happened to his daughter Rebecca born in 1866!
Thanks for your helpful comments.

[bedfordshire boy]

The house of William Burgess in Dean was licenced as a dissenters meeting house on 13 Apr 1811. The record doesn't give which flavour of non-conformity the meeting house belonged to. (Bedfordshire Chapels and Meeting Houses: Official Registration 1672-1901, Ed Edwin Welch, Bedfordshire Historical Record Society 1996).

The 1834 marriage can be found at http://www.rushdenheritage.co.uk/genealogy/registers/stmarym-1813-1837.html

Yelden/Yielden marriages are on Freereg at  http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl    The marriage on 18 Oct 1790 describes him as William Burgess of Dean, tailor, and Elizabeth White.  Even without a baptism for Elizabeth Burgess c 1808, the birth document for her son which names her father as William Burgess of Dean, tailor gives an audit trail through to the 1790 marriage.

It seems to be coming together!

David

[AlexStewart]

Thank you so much, David. That is very interesting and much appreciated.
Alex

[johnP-bedford]

On the Rushden heritage site they have a link to the Old Baptist Church book where it lists the members, on page 273 Elizabeth Burgess joined 26/06/1808 and died  11/02/1844, buried 12/02/1844.

In the Dean PRs I found at the Hunts Archives today there's burial of Eliz wife of William Burges on 4 Aug 1797
 
John