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Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:10 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I'm trying to find out more about my wife's Grandfather who died during WW2.

He has an unusual name so you would think I could find something but I can only find his grave:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=46627582

I know his RAF service number:
Casualty of WWII, Francis was a Leading Aircraftman in the
Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve; Service No: 1444102

He died before my wife's Mother was born so nobody knows much about him.

If anybody can help suggest where I should be looking for more information I'd be very grateful.

Kind regards

Steve

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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

From www.cwgc.org

LODGE, FRANCIS HILLIARD KITCHENER
Leading Aircraftman
1444102
18/06/1944
Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

BARNSTON CHURCHYARD

You can download the certificate from the site

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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:25 BST (UK) »
Hi copels

Welcome to rootschat  :)

This could be his birth registration with the middle initials the wrong way round  :-\

From freebmd
December qtr 1915
Lodge    Francis K H    (Mothers maiden name Lodge)
Dunmow    4a   1472

He may have been illegitimate  :-\

There is a marriage in 1935 Newcastle on freebmd index that matches this birth.
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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Useful information about applying for a copy of WW2 service records:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0


There are several online trees featuring Francis; some listing his mother.



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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:30 BST (UK) »
Hi & welcome.

There is also a marriage in Jan-Mar 1944 in Bristol for a Francis H K Lodge.

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Aldridge/London
Sills/London/Kent
Hartwell/London
Salkeld/Cumberland/Northumberland
Robinson/London
Stewart/Ireland/Scotland/England

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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:31 BST (UK) »
Ahhh I have just spotted a later marriage with the initials the right way round  ::)

ADDED I had just seen that Sharon  :'(
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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:35 BST (UK) »
This could be his birth registration with the middle initials the wrong way round  :-\

From freebmd
December qtr 1915
Lodge    Francis K H    (Mothers maiden name Lodge)
Dunmow    4a   1472


Well this ties in with that birth
Frances K H Lodge
Date of Registration   June qtr 1944
Age at Death   28
Registration District   Dunmow
Inferred County   Essex
Volume   4a
Page   903
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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:41 BST (UK) »
Wow - what an amazing site and thanks so much for all your replies!

My wife's Grandmother was from Bristol so I'm sure that this is the marriage - her name was Olive.

Any idea how I can find out how he died? I've printed the forms for the MOD info request.

Nanny Jan - which online trees feature his Mother?

Thanks again ;)

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Re: Francis Hilliard Kitchener Lodge (D Jun. 18, 1944)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There are both public and private online trees on Ancestry. Some also show 3 children (1937, 1939,1942).

Copy of his death certificate (£9.25 from GRO if ordered online) should show cause of death.


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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