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1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« on: Tuesday 14 June 05 20:46 BST (UK) »
In the 1851 census of Morcott, Rutland, I have reference H0107-2093-371 for the household in which John Cullingworth aged 8 is described as Grandson. Could anyone please give me John's place of birth and details of the rest of the household?
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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 00:32 BST (UK) »
Greeting's ....

On the 1861. Census returns for Morcott Rutland.:-

RG 9 2310 / 26. / Page. 7.
Village of Morcott
" Blue Bell Public House."

William Lambert. 64. Publican. b. Morcott. Rutland.
Mary. Wife. 64. b. Duddington. Northamptonshire.

John Cullingworth. Grand Son. 16. b. Northampton Northamptonshire.

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004.

The same Names within the household on the 1851 INDEX ONLY
Census returns 2093 / 371. = Morcott.

History of the Landlords of the Bluebell :-

Morcott.   Blue Bell         Main Street   1846-1941      1960   15  closed c1960; 41p55P
   Blue Bell      Lambert, Wm.      1857-1862         saddler & victualler; 1861 harness maker
   Blue Bell      Robinson, Francis      1875-1877         
   Blue Bell      Robinson, Eliz      1888         
   Blue Bell      Joyce, Alfred      1895-1900         
   Blue Bell      Rowell, James      1904         
   Blue Bell      Loud, Mrs Eliz.      1908-1932         
   Blue Bell      Holmes, Jsph.      1936         
   Blue Bell      Harper, Herbt.      1941         
©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001.

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Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 June 05 21:38 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Mike - that was quick! Good to have the 1861 census details as a bonus. It looks as if John's age was incorrect in the 1851 census as his birth was registered in 1844.
I still hope someone can give me full 1851 details as there could have been relatives of other surnames in the household, you never know
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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 January 06 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have John Cullingworth in 1851 if you don't already have it: the household is as follows:

William Lambert; Head; 54; Mar; Inn Keeper; born Morcott
Mary Lambert; Wife; 54; Mar; ; born Duddington, Northants
John Cullingworth; Grandson; 8; ; born Northamptonshire
George Whitelaw; Head; 23; Mar; Mason; born Brockesby, Lincs
Elisabeth Whitelaw; Wife; 31; Mar; born Morcott
Lambert Whitelaw; Son; 1; ; born Grimsby, Lincs

My interest in this family group is through William Lambert: his grandmother was Mary Williams. Elisabeth Whitelaw is his married daughter, and the only child I have for William and Mary.
In 1861 and 1871 George and Elisabeth Whitelaw have a nephew George Cullingworth living with them, presumably John's brother?

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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 January 06 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Megs
Yes, George Cullingworth was John's brother. There were other children. I now know that their parents were Joseph Cullingworth and his wife Mary Ann Brown. They married 25 May 1840 at Morcott church, Rutland. Mary Ann Brown was stated to be aged 16 at marriage. She was daughter of Edward Brown, publican.
Joseph Cullingworth died 6 May 1851 at Gold Street, Northampton, aged 36 years, tobacconist. Cause of death Pulmonary Consumption 'many months', which explains why the children were farmed out to relatives. Informant was Ann Stanton, present at death.
I need to review what I have gathered and will post further info asap but didn't want to keep you waiting any longer for a thankyou!
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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 January 06 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Megs
For John Cullingworth to have been grandson of William and Mary Lambert and John's brother George to have been nephew of their daughter Elisabeth Whitelaw nee Lambert, I can only think that either (1) their Mother Mary Ann Cullingworth formerly Brown was a daughter of William Lambert's wife by a previous marriage, i.e. to Edward Brown, publican, named as Mary Ann's father on her marriage certificate. Or (2) perhaps Mary Lambert was previously married to John Cullingworth, publican, named as Joseph's father on the marriage certificate!
Do you have details of William and Mary's marriage?

This is Joseph and Mary Ann Cullingworth's family:
Birth: 3 June 1841 Edward Cullingworth at Great Russell Street, St. Giles, Northampton (Edward died 1866)
Birth: 1842 Elizabeth Brown Cullingworth (died 1843)
Birth: 24 Feb 1844 John Cullingworth at Great Russell Street, St. Giles, Northampton. (His age wrongly stated as 8 in the 1851 census. He was in the same household in 1861 when his age was given as 16)
Birth: 6 July 1848 George Cullingworth at Gold Street, All Saints, Northampton
Birth: 4 Dec 1849 Martha Cullingworth at Gold Street, All Saints, Northampton (Martha was with her parents at Gold Street in the 1851 census)
The father, Joseph Cullingworth, died 6 May 1851 at Gold Street.
His widow, Mary, later had another baby again at the same address, Richard Watson Cullingworth on 5 March 1853, no father's name on birth certificate and too late to have been her husband's child! This baby's death was registered in the second quarter of 1853.
I look forward to your thoughts on this!
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Culli
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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 September 06 08:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Culli,
Sorry for taking so long to reply - work has kept me away from my research for far too long.
If you haven't already found this info, I have William and Mary's marriage: the 4th quarter of 1847 - William Lambert and Mary Brown. Edward Brown died in the 1st quarter of 1847.
And in the 1841 census, William Lambert is living alone, while Edward and Mary Brown have a daughter Elizabeth aged 20, who in the 3rd quarter of 1847, married George Whitelaw.
So Elizabeth is a Brown, rather than a Lambert.
Hope that clears it up!
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Re: 1851 Morcott - John Cullingworth aged 8
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 September 06 22:35 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Megs
I too have been rather busy on other things (writing local history book - no connection to Morcott though!) and don't expect to surface until at least next April!
But I am glad to have more info on this family to file for when things settle down.
I will pass the information to the two friends who research Cullingworth families with me.
Regards
Culli
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