lugard family line

[nicnacnoo]

Does anybody have any information regarding Joseph Henry Lugard born 1839 in Maidstone kent? I can't seem to find any other information or records other than a birth record and a death record for age 40 in 1879, also he appears on 1871 cencus listed as husband to marian lugard born 1842 but I am interested to trace back further for his father, I think I have found his uncle, also joseph henry lugard born 1806? Dublin and married to Martha lugard born 1816 and living in brighton in the 1851 census. Can anyone help?

[garstonite]

Hiya Nicnacnoo and welcome to Rootschat
have you tried www.familysearch.org
Joseph henry lugard
birth
england
kent
maidstone
1838 - 1840
search ...
I will have a look as well

[JenB]

His second name was Henry - is this him in 1851?

HO 107 / 1486 / 285 / 65
34 George Street, Marylebone

Caroline Lugard, Mar, 45, Sempstress, St James
Henry do, son, 12, Kent, Maidstone
Eliza Lossell sister, 42, St James

[keyboard86]

Hi and welcome from me to!

Just a possible in 1841forJoseph:-

Caroline LEGARD 30 b Middx
Caroline 7 b Middx
Eliza 4 Not born in county
Joseph 2 Not born in county
Residing at Willow Street, Westminster
Census ref HO107/738/ 16/15 / 22
Keyboard86

[heywood]

Hello,
He gives his father as Joseph Henry on his marriage 
 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6VP-9FJ

heywood

[heywood]

I think this marriage would fit for Caroline - husband Joseph 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKR6-C4N

[JenB]

1861 census
RG9 / 602 / 40 / 9

2 North Street Quadrant, Brighton

Joseph H Lugard, head, mar, 55, Cork manufacturer 4 men, 2 apprentices, Ireland
Marth  wife, mar, 45, Hertfordshire Hawkshurst
Joseph A. son, un, 8, scholar, Sussex Brighton
Henry , son un, 6, do, do do
Joseph H, nephew, un, 22, cork cutter, Kent Maidstone
Louisa Cuttness, servant, unm, 24, general servant, Sussex ? Fulking

[jorose]

Someone else searching for this family:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=492670.0

Daughter Caroline from the 1841 does have father Joseph Henry on christening:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWMK-4M4

Could this be a late christening for your Joseph Henry?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXJH-B6P

[nicnacnoo]

Thankyou all so much for your help, it is much appreciated, it looks to me like joseph henry senior married caroline tossell in 1832, having 3 children...caroline, eliza and joseph henry jr, by the time joseph h jr is 2 joseph henry sr has left caroline going on to later marry Martha and having children Elizabeth m, joseph a and henry g although in 1871 Martha is listed as head of family living with her 2 youngest, joseph henry sr does not die until 1877?? so did he leave Martha as well?
in 1861 joseph jr is living with joseph sr and Martha but listed on census as nephew! did joseph sr possibly tell Martha he was his nephew as he didn't want her to know he was married before!
I am still unable to find any earlier records of joseph henry senior born in Ireland around 1806 and it is the irish link I am now trying to follow, thanks again to everyone who has commented and helped me work this out, any further information will be gratefully received