Error in death record

[forthefamily]

I have a lot of Irish relatives that were pretty creative with their ages on the Irish census records.....specially women:) For this reason I don't rely on that info too much.

I have one person who is 35 in 1901 and 50 in 1911. He was actually born in 1853 so he really is about 58 in 1911. I often think that he fibbed about his age as he had married a younger second wife. To make it more confusing he is reported twice in the 1911 census...once in his own home at age 50 and once in the home of his son where his age is correctly given as 58. His son knew his correct age then

mab

[tumbleweed]

 Thanks mab and others who replied.  So I know it is more likely he was 70 than 90. His wife remarried a man 10 yrs younger than her the next time round !! I found them in the census and her age was recorded correctly or close enough.

 I would like to have got a more accurate age for him ( James) as he has died and left a mystery behind. His age would have been a good clue that would help figure out his story.

According to family he eloped with my g/grandmother a Catholic young lady from Monreagh who was in service to his family in Co. Tyrone and his Protestant father ( a bishop) disowned him.

The oldest living relative believes that it was not the father who was the bishop but James himself.
According to the marriage record his father was a farmer and so was he ..but he may not have wanted the fact he or his dad was a Presbyterian bishop to be known. Now he was living in Buncrana and I guess he wanted a new life there ..??

No one knows where he is buried and his children never really knew him as they were too young when he died.  The one who reported his death was his wife's brother.
Thanks everyone and if anyone has suggestions I would love to hear them but I feel he died with most of his past hidden.

[aghadowey]

Well, I can certainly dispell part of the family myth- there are no bishops in the Presbyterian Church. If he was Church of Ireland, then there are records of clergy (as with Presbyterian ministers).

If you haven't already a thread about him post the details here and we'll take a look...

[tumbleweed]

Sorry maybe not the right denomination ..but could be any ..all we heard was a Protestant bishop. I wondered about Methodist .

I did send a post before in on him and his family and got a reply from someone who put me in touch with a second cousin in Buncrana. That line of the family heard the same as our line. Nothing new to add.

James Henderson married Mary Anne McLaughlin in 1876. They lived in Tullydish and had four children. Sarah Jane /  James  / William John ( my g/da) / Hugh

He gave his father's name as Joseph ( farmer) and her father was James ( farmer)

The family are certain he came from Co.Tyrone and an old ( living) neighbour who grew up next to our family farm in Fahan heard the same story and said too it was Tyrone and Mary Anne went into service there at his home. She heard they eloped and he was disowned..hardly though if he was 62  then !  Brings a picture in my mind of an ancient old Joseph hounding them away with his cane LOL

[aghadowey]

Your earlier thread doesn't give much detail-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=634910.msg4823963#msg4823963

Exactly when and where did the marriage take place? is James listed as single or widower?

James' supposed age doesn't make much sense- if he was in his 60s when 'eloping' then his father was probably well into his 80s. Also, a farmer would have been unlikely to elope and leave his farm.

To start with a few facts-
Two of the children-
Sarah Jane born 7 May 1877 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG8B-Z4F
William John born 10 Dec.1880 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPTH-TM7

family in 1901 & 1911 census- Philip McCallion, wife Mary Ann, stepson Hugh:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Buncranna/Tullydish_Upper/1181335
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Buncrana/Tullydush_Upper/491554

[tumbleweed]

On the civil marriage record here are the details.
James Henderson and Mary Ann McLaughlin were married in May 29 1976.  He is listed as living in Tullydish and she is from Monreagh. They resided in Tullydish after marriage.

Parish : Burt.
He is listed as batchelor and she as spinster and no age recorded.
James is listed as farmer.

His father is Joseph Henderson - farmer. Mary Anne's father is James McLaughlin - farmer.

Thanks for the details on the children. I already have these and where they lived and who they married.
 
 I also have the details on Mary Anne's second marriage to Phillip McCallion. They had a good marriage it seems and a son.

Now if I can figure out more about James as I want to separate fact from fiction if possible.
I am now considering that perhaps he himself was the 'bishop'  ...and gave up the cloth to marry..and left his county and changed his religion. 

What comes out of it is not if he was or not I just would love to know the truth.
                                                                                                                   

[aghadowey]

Exactly when and where did the marriage take place?

[tumbleweed]

 All I know is what I sent from the Civil marriage record. Date of marriage May 1876. Parish or district Burt. Co Donegal.

 Can you explain what you mean..as this is all I have. There is no church record that I have found.
 Thanks for trying to help I appreciate that.

[aghadowey]

The marriage either had to take place in a church or a registry office- who is the officiant (a minister or registrar)