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Sarah Ann Holden
« on: Friday 06 September 13 22:17 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find my 2*G grandmother Sarah Ann Holden the info I have is her marriage cert which is Dec 9th 1855 at St James Church Dudley Worcester her father is William Holden a miner she married Richard Pickrell I have found them on 1861 census living in Shavers end Dudley &1871 in salop st Dudley on the 1861 Sarah birthplace is Sedgley Staffs & on the 1871 Gornal but I cannot find her before she married I know Gornal came under Sedgley   I have looked under both Staffordshire & Worcestershire as on some Census  it as Dudley as Staffordshire  on others Worcestershire In 1891 Sarah now 58 was living at 16 Swan St Dudley she was a widow and her daughter Martha age 17 living with her Sarahs age differs slightly on last census, in 1861 age 25, 1871 35, on 1891 58

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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 September 13 22:33 BST (UK) »
What age is she on her marriage cert in 1855 ?
if she was 58 in 1891 = born 1832/33 - does that match her age on marriage cert?
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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 September 13 22:46 BST (UK) »
Hello

It just says full so it's not much help

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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 September 13 22:56 BST (UK) »
So at least 21 .....so born 1834 back to 1832 according to 1891 census
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sarah ann holden
birth /baptism
england
1830 - 1835
parent - william holden
results ...............can`t find her
you try and search the same and see if anything shows ....somehow ,I think there is a slight problem with the site or my search ....
see what you come up with .... I am wondering if Sarah Ann mother re-married to William Holden and Sarah took his name - or Sarah Ann was born out of wedlock to williams wife before they married and Sarah was named after her mothers maiden name ??
I can`t find her anywhere prior to the marriage
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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 September 13 23:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you for looking for me I have just found a marriage on Freereg for a William Holden in Dudley just wondering if it could be Sarah's father but no idea what her mothers name was without finding them on census this is the marriage I found

County   Staffordshire
Place   Dudley Staffs
Church   St Thomas
RegisterNumber   47
MarriageDate   21 Jul 1823
GroomForename   William
GroomSurname   HOLDEN
GroomAge   
GroomParish   Dudley
GroomCondition   Single
GroomOccupation   
GroomAbode   
BrideForename   Hannah
BrideSurname   LAWLEY
BrideAge   
BrideParish   Dudley
BrideCondition   Spinster

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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 September 13 23:04 BST (UK) »
Did Sarah name any children Hannah - quite common if  one daughter was named after their grandmother??
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can you list the names of her children in the 1861/1871/1881 census ?
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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 September 13 23:16 BST (UK) »
Can't see a Hannah
1861 children

Elizabeth 3
George 3 months

On 1871

Elizabeth 13
Catherine 7
Thomas 4
Jane 2
No George

(Elizabeth was my G Grandmother)

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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 September 13 23:33 BST (UK) »
Your marriage for Hannah Lawley might be right - and maybe Richard and Sarah Ann did name a daughter after Hannah ??

sadly - I have found this - and because of the years - wouldn`t show on any census

Hannah Elizabeth Pickerill born 1862
buried 27th september 1863 aged 1 at St James ,Dudley ........
NO PARENTS are named - but there is a good chance she may be a daughter of Richard and Sarah Ann ...
what do you think ?
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Re: Sarah Ann Holden
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 September 13 23:44 BST (UK) »
If I have the right marriage, would Hannah not be to old to have a child in 62 ??

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Mary