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Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« on: Saturday 07 September 13 14:44 BST (UK) »
Has anyone ever heard of the name 'Peters Chaffron' as a place in Hertfordshire?     I've googled it with no result, but it is given as the birthplace of someone in one of my trees, one Margaret Quarterman Matthews, born circa 1809.      Can't find it on Familysearch, either.
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 September 13 15:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

I wonder if it's

Chalfont Saint Peter

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 September 13 15:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

Chalfont St Peter is just over the border, from 'Erts ( and Middx ), in Bucks. . . . ?

What other details do you have about the family?
There are Matthews in CStP.

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:39 BST (UK) »
I have a Margaret Quarterman Matthews, allegedly born about 1809,who married William H. Stiles at Malling, Kent, in 1865,   I can't find her marriage, so all I'm going on is the 41, 51, and 61 census, all of which say that she was born in Hertfordshire and one of which stated that it was in this mysterious place called Peters Chaffron, the spelling of which,  incidentally, has been corrected by someone as though he knows that it exists.    It doesn't look like Chalfont St. Peter, Ray,  - Peters is definitely the first word.     Getting the cert is not going to help as she appears to have married him in his parish, rather than the one she was born in.
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 September 13 23:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

The marriage for Margaret & William is on Free BMD, Sept qtr 1838 Malling 5 351. My first instinct on seeing the name Peters Chaffron was also Chalfont St Peters, I have never heard of Peters Chaffron but there is a tree on Ancestry that has this very same info, probably the person who has corrected it on the image. :-\ Unfortunately they don't have any info for her parents which might have helped. If you are really stuck you could get the marriage cert & hopefully it will give you her father's name & occupation.

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 September 13 23:47 BST (UK) »
For the benefit of those who want to have ago at deciphering, here's a snippet

I tend to agree with the others that Chalfont St Peter is what the enumerator was trying to record on the census.
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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 September 13 01:24 BST (UK) »
I don't know if this is any help but I have ancestors born in Horn Hill which is almost Chalfont St Peters, although part of Horn Hill is in Rickmansworth district Herts, some say born Chalfont St Peters Bucks & others Horn Hill Herts so perhaps that's how the Hertfordshire part comes in.

Does that make sense. :-\ ::)

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 September 13 03:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone, though I'm still not convinced :)    I think my curiosity is just going to have to contain itself for a while.    I've just started this tree and Margaret is pretty far down the queue as far as getting a cert is concerned.     If only she'd managed to hang on until 1871, to let another enumerator have a go!
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

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Re: Peters Chaffron, anyone?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 September 13 18:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

In case it helps you identify or negate the families,
Chalfont St Peter 1841 is split into 4 districts
I went thru all 4, the only Matthews families I could find are . . . .

CSP District 1 HO107 46 1 7 p8

Robert Matthews 44 Tailor y
Mary 47 y
James 13 y
Sarah 10 y
William 5 y

p10
James Matthews 24 Traveller n
Clara   20 n

i did not spot a "Quarterman" nor "Quartermain" person.


Also, in your cut down census page "Chaffron" ends in a "t" ?

Ray
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