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Coutts Wm Aberdeenshire farmer 1880s, 1890s +?
« on: Sunday 15 September 13 01:34 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me locate my grandfather William Coutts who was a farm labourer or small crofter in Aberdeenshire?
There are several William Coutts who were farmers or farm workers on the 1881 and 1891 census, and I am unable to determine which is “mine”. He had a son out of wedlock in 1880 (did not marry the mother) who was boarded out to Alexander Reid in Fyvie, Abd. before 1890. He had a “wife” and other children at the time.
At no time is William on the census with my father, nor can I find a school registration.

Any suggestions appreciated!

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Re: Coutts Wm Aberdeenshire farmer 1880s, 1890s +?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 September 13 08:52 BST (UK) »
Have you had a look to see if the kirk session minutes have any details? Or checked the index of the parochial board books in case relief was applied for?

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Re: Coutts Wm Aberdeenshire farmer 1880s, 1890s +?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 September 13 11:06 BST (UK) »
Hi There,
We need to know the mother's name and also  where your father was born, please give every detail you know. It can be quite annoying to spend money when it already is known.
We will try hard.
Jo
Pattillo, Connon, Shand, Mackie, Hickey, Brooks, Ryan.

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Re: Coutts Wm Aberdeenshire farmer 1880s, 1890s +?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 September 13 14:46 BST (UK) »
It appears that William's son,Andrew, was born in Ellon parish, from the 1891 census details. I am assuming that you have seen the birth certificate & that it named William as his father. Was there a corrected entry attached? Where exactly was he born? If it was at the place of your granny's work then that might give a clue as to the nearest possible father.
The poor relief applications would definately be worth checking.
Have you looked through all the school admission books? In my experience my ancestors changed school as often as 6 monthly,especially if their parents were farm/house servants. The child may have been known by another surname,either his mother's maiden name,stepfather's name or even the person's who brought him up.
 If Andrew married,the certificate would give details of his father (if he knew about him) & whether he was still alive.
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.


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Re: Coutts Wm Aberdeenshire farmer 1880s, 1890s +?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 September 13 14:59 BST (UK) »
I have not found Andrew Coutts in 1881 however, there is a one year old Andrew...,boarded out in Monquhitter. There is also a potential candidate for the William Coutts in the same parish.Until we get more information from Sandyhook, it is not helpful to speculate any further.I look forward to getting some more information regarding the mother.
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.

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Re: Coutts Wm Aberdeenshire farmer 1880s, 1890s +?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 September 13 00:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all who replied.  Yes, I have seen the Birth certificate. Father not mentioned.  His name, William Coutts, was on Andrew's own marriage certificate in 1928.  I also have a paper stating Andrew Buchan is the same person as Andrew Coutts.  His mother was Jessie Buchan, and yes, that is the correct Andrew boarding in Monquittor in 1881.  He was born in Ellon (his mother's home) 8 Feb 1880.  He was not baptised until 29 Nov 1883 and then it was at the Episcopal Chapel Cuminestown. (wrongly as Andrew Bruce) .  Jessie married in Dec 1884  and sometime prior to that, Andrew went to live with his father, but I don't know where.  At about age 9, when his "step-mother"  had her own babies, he was boarded with Alexander Reid of Fyvie, shown on the 1891 census.  Andrew remained there although his father apparently wanted him back "when he was old enough to work".
Andrew became a policeman and later joined the South African Constabulary.  Alexander Reid was given in place of next of kin.  Jessie had died in 1890, but I don't know if William was dead or just ignored.
I have not looked at kirk session records, nor poor relief, but have asked for help searching school records when he was in Fyvie.  I don't know how I could search ALL the records from Canada.
Thanks again,
Sandyhook