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William Robert Bird
« on: Friday 27 September 13 18:32 BST (UK) »
Can someone please help locate the details for William Robert Bird on the 1901 and 1891 censuses?  He was born circa.1878, Wymondham, Norfolk.  On the latest census there was a Sydney Bird, boarder in the household, born 1891, also Wymondham

The only William Robert I can find on the 1881 is as follows;
@ Morley St Botolph, Norfolk, England
Robert PATRICK, 34, farmer, Morley St Botolph, Norfolk.
Louisa PATRICK, wife 28, Besthorpe, Norfolk
Willie Robert BIRD, nephew, 3, Besthorpe, Norfolk
anything and everything to do with the village of Brithdir, near New Tredegar in Gwent.

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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 September 13 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Couid this be him in 1891 living Suton Street Wymondham.

George Bird 37 head farm labourer born Besthorpe
Brittania Bird 35 wife born Attleborough
William Bird 13 son born Besthorpe
Jeremiah Bird 12 son born Besthorpe
Eliza Ann Bird 10 dau born Suton
John Bird 7 son born Suton
Matilda Bird 6 dau born Suton
Henry Bird 5 son born Suton
Amelia Bird 4 dau born Suton
George Bird 2 son born Suton
James Bird 1 son born Suton
John Bird 39 lodger born Besthorpe

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In 1861 father George has a sister called Louisa.
Louisa Bird married Robert Patrick 1874, Forehoe (4b 277).

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Fagan/England/Ireland
Aldridge/London
Sills/London/Kent
Hartwell/London
Salkeld/Cumberland/Northumberland
Robinson/London
Stewart/Ireland/Scotland/England

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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 September 13 19:21 BST (UK) »
Hi sharon
First of all thanks for helping on this; the details for 1891 look a good possible, lets hope the 1901 will reveal more and make it a good probable.

Thanks again
Roy
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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 September 13 19:59 BST (UK) »
Can not seem to find him in 1901, there is a Robert Bird born 1878 Wymondham as gunner  at RA Hut barracks Ewshott , Hampshire

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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 September 13 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Sharon
Interesting, that could be him, the person I'm researching died 1920, aged 42, he was a Bombardier in the Royal Field Artillery; unfortunately I have not located his service records so anything you turn up on him will be appreciated.
Regards, Roy
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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 September 13 07:27 BST (UK) »
I can not find a a birth for a William Robert Bird or a marriage for George & Brittania.

There was a Robert Wiiliam Bird born 1878, Foresoe & a few William Birds  1878 & 1879 in different areas in Norfolk.

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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 September 13 10:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Roy,

Findmypast has William Robert's Attestation Papers.
He does say he was born Wymondham, and his father he gives as George Bird, of Suton Street, Wymondham.
They're dated March 1897 and he gives his age as 19 years 1 month

His religion is shown as "Protestant - other", rather than C of E.

Another interesting entry is that in 1901, he was "awaiting trial" and "imprisoned by civil powers", but doesn't give any more detail.

It looks like he is the son of George and Britannia ... though looking at the 1901 and 1911 censuses, mother can't make her mind up where she was born!
1901 she says Northampton, and 1911, London.

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Norris, London 1800's
Bird, Gt Yarmouth 1800's
Smowton, Yarmouth/Norwich 1770
Dublack, Yarmouth
Binks, Essex
Wilcock, Lancashire
Kettlewell, Yorkshire

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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 September 13 10:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Yorkslass
I have just sent you a PM
Regards, Roy
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Re: William Robert Bird
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 September 13 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Been searching ages for a marriage for George and Britannia and found nothing.

With so many different places of birth on the censuses, it's difficult to know where Britannia was born, but I wondered about this one on Family Search.

Shows baptised in Northampton in 1855, parents are Jeremiah and Eliza Toogood - two of the names of her own children.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J756-8NL

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Norris, London 1800's
Bird, Gt Yarmouth 1800's
Smowton, Yarmouth/Norwich 1770
Dublack, Yarmouth
Binks, Essex
Wilcock, Lancashire
Kettlewell, Yorkshire