Cannot find marriage

[zhunter71]

Can anyone help me find the marriage between William Newbury and a Hannah xxxxxxx, suspected to be in Cheadle around 1852-1854?

This is a link to the 1871 census, their oldest child John, born in 1854 was born in Rugeley.

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Hannah was born in Cheadle so have assumed the marriage to be round there somewhere

I have looked and looked and cannot find this anywhere. I have been told Hannah's maiden name was Oliver

any help much appreciated!

[CaroleW]

1861 has the surname as Newbery (Newberry) - possible alternative spelling

[CaroleW]

The 1841 does have a Hannah Oliver b 1834 and living in Cheadle - parents George & Hannah

[wrjones]

Some online Trees have Hannah as a Hannah Carden.The difficulty with this is the Carden/"Newbury" marriage didn't take place until 1858 at Bishops Castle Shropshire according to UKBMD or Clun Shropshire(GRO).

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[zhunter71]

my contact i think has bouht some of the birth certs for the children which gave him the Oliver maiden name, and the gage ties up with Hannah Newbury on the later census's.  I wonder why their marriage cant be found though ? could they have married at an establishment that hasnt released its records as yet?

[CaroleW]

I think possibly buying a copy of one of their childrens birth certs may be a step in the right direction.  It will clear up the doubt over Hannah's maiden name 

[Annette7]

I note from their occupations that there is a gypsy element here.    From posts I've read on here many times often there is no registered marriage - I think they married within their own community but not a legal/registered marriage as we know it.   I wonder if this is another such case?

Annette

[zhunter71]

i hadnt considered that, but its a very good point!  that may well be the case and explain why there is no legal marriage record