nant, hendregyea, dolganner, mathenod

[familyline]

Hello,
Please can some kind person tell me if any of the above names are nearby to Tyn Terfyn.
Thankyou for your time.
Lynne

[everlea]

Hi - I see three of them are reasonably close to each other in Denbighshire,N Wales, but I couldn't

find anything for Mathenod. Also, there were three places with the name "Nant" - a fairly common

Welsh place name - and Hendregyea was spelt "Hendregyda."

                                                                                                  Regards

                                                                                                     Everlea.

[familyline]

Hi, firstly thankyou for answering, I think Mathebnod is in Llanwrst. According to my map Colwyn bay is on the coast and Tyn terfyn is in the middle between llanwrst and Colwyn bay. I was wondering the distance between the two. My brick wall is Richard Roberts its just knowing which one to pick regarding the names above. His wife Jane is buried at pendorlan 6 july 1779, I don't know where that is, also Richard is buried Mochdre 16 Jan 1774, they lived at tyn terfyn, their first born reg under llandrillo but the rest of their children are under Llanwrst. They lived in a cottage called talybout on a farm called llst tyndrni in the parish of Llandrillo. I hope you can help me. Thankyou for your time and effort.
regards
lynne

[despair]

There is a real possibility of confusion between different properties called Tyn Terfyn in the area.There are at least three:

1.Tyn Terfyn Cilgwyn Road Colwyn Bay.This would probably have come under Llandrillo district
(as per your previous threads I think).Postcode LL29 6AA

2.Tyn Terfyn  Llandudno Junction.This would probably come under Llangwstenin.Postcode LL31 9JZ.

3.Tyn y Terfyn  Tal y Bont.This would probably come under Conway,but is in the dfirection heading to Llanrwst.Postcode  LL32 8YX.

Two or three of the properties you identified are probably nearer Abergele(LL22 postcodes).
I'll see if I can find Mathe(b)nod or similar.

Regards
Roger

[everlea]

I see Roger has really come up with some useful info - I'm afraid my contribution was to be that

LLanrwst was just over 15 miles from Colwyn Bay & Pendorlan looks like part of the C/Bay area,

with Mochdre being a village to the west of there.

                                                                          Everlea.

[despair]

There is also a Tyn Y Terfyn  at  postcode LL22 8RG,which is nearer Llangernyw.This is approaching Llanrwst  from the Abergele direction.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

I don't think Jane Roberts(as of 1778 will Ty yn Terfyn,Llandrillo?) was buried at Pendorlan-i think it is more likely that she was "of Pendorlan" when she died.There was a Pen y Dorlan in Colwyn Bay and a will of 1824 for William Williams(probably 1747-1824) of that address-perhaps as a widow she was staying with a relative,while son William(later 1818 will) was resident at Tyn Terfyn?

Regards
Roger

[familyline]

Hi Roger and Everlea,
I think the no3 of roger selection is the right one. Im going on previous history where they have been reg under Conway. The Roberts clan all seem to come from Colwyn, Eirias, and Eglwys Rhos areas. But finding Richard Roberts birth place is a nightmare,I have been looking under Abergele as some of Richards and Janes childrens are listed under Llanwrst, I know they were married in 1750 in Llandrillo, there is only 2 possibilities Richard of 1722, or Richard of 1712, with Jane being born in 1733, the one 1712 looks impossible. I know there is a place called Nant Uchaf and I can see the Llanwrst road so whether my Richard is the son of William and Catherine of Nant could be a possibility, born 6 dec 1723 Abergele. Thankyou for your time. regards lynne

[despair]

There is another possibility,of course,that the Tyn Terfyn of the Roberts family no longer exists.The 1818 will of William would favour his son John inheriting and in the 1841 census there is a John Roberts at Tyn Terfyn listed under Llandrillo,Conway,Caernarvonshire with the individual address also referring to Eirias district.Looking at the properties close by there is a Rising Gull "next door" and Rhos Fynach close by.It would be difficult to imagine this sequence being replicated elsewhere.
These two properties( but not Tyn Terfyn) can be seen close to each other in the 1870's maps at www.old-maps.co.uk using the search term - Rhos Fynach- which obviously still exists.
Using the same website you can find the original Pen y Dorlan by using the search term Pendorlan Avenue,choosing one address and when the current map loads choose from the historical list on the right.

Regards
Roger