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Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« on: Saturday 30 November 13 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
       Thomas Welham was born on 7th June 1859. His birth certificate shows his father as George and mother Mary formerly Springate. I have not been able to find their marriage on GR, FreeBMD, or Family Search. Can anybody find it for me?
       Thank you in advance

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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 November 13 10:15 GMT (UK) »


   Is it possible that Mary could have been married before?

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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 November 13 10:22 GMT (UK) »

I've looked, - & cannot find a Marriage for those names on FindMyPast in that time-frame.

Are you positive about Mary's surname?

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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 November 13 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Romilly,
          Thank you foryour reply. As stated in my introduction, the name Springate was taken from a copy of Thomas's birth certificate, which I have bought.


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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 November 13 13:05 GMT (UK) »
 I see from the 1861  census  (   from another thread re Thomas)  that  Thomas's sister Harriet was born in Suffolk about 1851      so   maybe  they  married   in Suffolk    as Mary  was born there ,  tho  I   can't see a   marriage   for Springate/ Welam,    unless    Mary was  married  before

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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 November 13 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Romilly,
          Thank you foryour reply. As stated in my introduction, the name Springate was taken from a copy of Thomas's birth certificate, which I have bought.

A birth certificate would give the mothers maiden name and would not indicate whether she was previously married.

Where do you have the family on census in 1861 :-\   Just off to look as I see Jan has found it  :)
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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 November 13 13:15 GMT (UK) »
 Rosie  ,   1861      census  on Ancestry has them   mistranscribed  as WELLAND

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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 November 13 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jan57, I looked back on the other post you referred to. No wonder I couldn't see it  ;D
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Re: Parents of Thomas Welham, born 1859, in West Ham, Essex
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 November 13 13:33 GMT (UK) »
This is just supposition... but there's a Marriage for:
Name: MOULDEN, Mary Ann
Registration district:  Witham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1856
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no:  4A
Page no: 383
 MarriageFinder™: Mary Ann Moulden married one of the following people :   
SPRINGATE, Alfred

Could that be a possibility?
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