Jane Vincent & family, Penzance

[ellerydesign]

Wonder if anyone can help.
Trying to find family of Jane Vincent b. Penzance 1825 who married Christopher Mouls, Fishmonger, in Cardiff 1850. Can only find her in Cornwall 1851 census (at Paul) staying with her sister Nancy Batten, Fisherman's wife (b. Penzance about 1822).
Can't find her or her family in 1841 or any baptisms details.
If anyone can help I'd be very grateful.
Craig

[Kay99]

Do you have her marriage cert with hopefully her father's name?

Previous relevant thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=670276.0

Kay

[msv]

Looking at the 1851 census, Nancy [Ann ?] is 3 years older than Jane.
In 1841 there is a famly of 'Vincents' living at St. Erme, Cornwall   HO 107/147/8  that might fit

Oliver aged 60
Ann aged 50
Paul aged 15
George aged 14
Ann age 13
Jane aged 11

But as Kay says - what info does it give on the marriage certificate ?



msv

[deb usa]

Hi

I’m wondering if Jane who married Christopher  Mouls had been married previously to a Mr. Vincent, hence her ‘surname’ on the marriage registration.

Nancy Batten was Jane’s sister. Her age varies throughout the censuses. She is also known as Ann according to census details. In 1841 she (Nancy) and Joseph are together in Paul. From 1861 onward she ( Ann) is with her husband, Joseph and niece and nephew, Annie and William Henry Mouls (variations of spelling)  both born Cardiff Wales.

I wanted to confirm Nancy/Ann’s maiden name was Vincent but unfortunately I cannot find a marriage of a Nancy/Ann VINCENT to a Joseph Batten.
There is, however, a marriage of a Joseph Batten to an Ann Parkins Rodda in June q 1840 in Penzance.

From the Cornwall OPC we get this information
Joseph Batten (fisherman, father: John, labourer)) = Ann Perkins Rodda (servant, father: Thomas, labourer)
18 April 1840, Paul   

A Jane Rodda marries a Joseph VINCENT , June q 1841, Penzance.
Cornwall OPC:
Joseph Vincent (Mariner, father: William, lab) = Jane Rodda (20, no occ., father Thomas , a butcher)
14 April 1841, Penzance.

Father has same name but the occupations are completely different...which could be an error.

There are also two deaths in Penzance which would then make Jane Vincent nee Rodda a widow and able to marry Christopher Mouls in 1850.
Joseph Vincent , July Q 1846
Joseph Vincent,  Jan q 1847

Then I found these baptisms on IGI …which seems to confirm that nancy/Ann and Jane were sisters:

Anne Rodda d/o THOMAS and SARAH 1 May 1821, Penzance

Jane PERKINS Rodda d/o THOMAS and SARAH 18 July 1823

There are a few more children to this couple.

In 1841:
Penwith, Penzance, Madron
Adelaide Street
Thomas Rodda 50, Butcher
Sarah  Rodda 50
John Bull 18
Henry Rodda 20 butcher
Thomas Rodda 10
Jane Parkins/Perkins 80, independent

Thomas Rodda = Sarah Perkins
26 Feb 1816
Madron

I think that in order to have peace of mind about Jane and her family, you should definitely order the marriage cert.

deb

[ellerydesign]

Hi Deb,

Many thanks for the information you've posted.
I had actually also been investigating the possibility of Jane having married a Mr Vincent as her first husband, and taken the same route as yourself. I've also discovered Jane & Christopher Mouls had 6 children in total.... Sarah Jane, Thomas Rodda, William Henry, Ann Louisa, John & Mary Jane. The Rodda more or less confirms the maiden surname, however I have ordered their marriage cert to confirm it for definite. Christopher & Jane both died in 1866, so I presume Ann (Nancy) & Joseph, who appeared to have no children, perhaps cared for William & Ann Louisa in Cornwall. The Rodda family hail from the Penzance area. William & Ann Louisa both married and remained in Cornwall. Thomas & John stayed in Cardiff, and Sarah Jane & Mary Ann died young.
Again many thanks for your help with this. Interesting and sad how siblings/families can get split up.

Craig

[deb usa]

Hi Craig

I hope the marriage cert confirms all of this. Good Luck and let us know the results.

It's very sad when parents die and families are split up. I wonder why Annie and William decided to stay in Cornwall as opposed to their Mouls extended family.

Deb