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Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« on: Thursday 19 December 13 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if any one can help with a baptism record for Luke?

What I know is Luke BOLAND & Margaret Jopling married by banns 6 October 1787 Chester le Street, Durham. They had 10 children all of whom were baptised as BOLAM.
Abode 1788 – 1791 Lumley, 1788 Luke a Farmer. 1791-1793, a Sinker. (On first four baptisms)
Abode in 1816/1819 Great Lumley (On Luke & Margaret, Bolam (juniors) burial records)

Nothing then until 1841 census, age 87 (1754). He was an Ag. Lab. Abode Woodman’s Place, Great Lumley, Chester Le Street, Durham. However he was not born in County Durham.

Luke Bolam– (Death 25 Mar 1842, aged 86; husbandman; old age: Elizabeth Boland, daughter, in attendance of Great Lumley. Burial 28 Mar 1842, age 86, (1756) Chester Le Street, Durham)

Another  Luke Bolam was buried St John's Chapel, Weardale, County Durham, 24 May 1785, Abode Fieldhead.

So the question is where was he born?
My best guess is that the answer will be in Northumberland.

A number of Ancestry members have a Luke Bolam in their family trees, he was baptised 2 Nov 1758 Lanchester, County Durham, parents Andrew Bolam & Mary. However the 1841 census notes that he was not born in the Durham.

I found Luke Bolam baptised HARTBURN, NORTHUMBERLAND 7 Jun 1761 (Only child)
Parents Charles Bolam & Jane Scott - married 29 Nov 1759 HARTBURN, NORTHUMBERLAND.

Charles must have died some time after Luke was born as Jane Bolam married Peter Robinson
31 Aug 1767 at Hartburn. They then moved to Stanhope, Durham and had children there. I assume Luke went with them. My feeling is this is the one who died 1785 in Weardale?

None of the above parents names are included in Luke & Margarets family, their boys being George,
John & William, and the baptism dates are some way off the burial record/census years, although I realise that these are not always accurate.

There are a number of records without the Christian name, one in particular which may be a possibility, I wondered if anyone had access to the records for GROAT MARKET MEETING - NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NORTHUMBERLAND, a Male Bollum born 26 June 1755 baptised 26 June 1755. Father: George Bollum.

Or any other suggestions.
Sorry this is so long.

Colin





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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 December 13 18:33 GMT (UK) »
He claims to be from Lanchester on his childrens baptisms at Chester le St St.Mary.

eg.

17 Oct 1802 Luke Boland, of Lumley, born 8 March 1802, 2nd son of Luke Boland,  Sinker, Native of Lanchester, by his wife Margaret Jopling, Native of Lumley.

5 May 1805 Margaret Bolan, of Lumley, born 22 Feb 1805, 5th daughter of Luke Bolan, Sinker, Native of Lanchester, by his wife Margaret Jopling, Native of Lumley.

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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 December 13 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Alan but that really puts the cat among the pigeons. All of the family were baptised there.

Baptisms CHESTER LE STREET, DURHAM

George Bolam 21 Dec 1788 – no burial record
John Bolam 25 Dec 1788 – no trace
Mary Bolam 19 Jun 1791 – married Ralph Winter 13 Mar 1815 Chester-le-Street
George Bolam 10 Feb 1793 - below
Ann Bolam 10 May 1795 – no clear trace
Eleanor Bolam born 15 Nov 1797 - 7 Jan 1798, married John Welsh in 1820 and died in 1849.
Julia Bolam born 11 Feb 1800 - 13 Apr 1800 – no trace
Luke Bolam 17 Oct 1802 – burial 3 Jun 1816, age 14 St Mary & St Cuthbert, Chester-le-Street
Margaret Bolan born 22 Feb 1805 - 5 May 1805 - – burial 19 Jul 1819, age 14, ditto
William Bolam born 4 Nov 1807 - 10 Jan 1808 – married Ann Maddison. See his notes.
Elizabeth Bolam born 20 Aug 1811 - 6 Oct 1811 – Married Henry Curry 1829.

Abode 1788 – 1791 Lumley, 1788 Luke a Farmer. 1791-1793, a Sinker. (On first four baptisms)
Abode in 1816/1819 Great Lumley (On Luke & Margaret, Bolam (juniors) burial records)

You will note that the two you mention both died at the age of 14.

This maybe a silly question but is it possible that Lanchester was outside of the boundary of County Durham in the late 1750s?
If not it means the 1841 census is not him.

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Colin
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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 December 13 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Why does this put the cat among the pigeons?   You don't know how lucky you are to have baptism records that show his original place of birth, i.e. Lanchester
 
The baptism you seek is on familysearch:

Luke Bolam bp.2/11/1758 Lanchester, Durham, son of Andrew/Mary

siblings: Mary bp.23/5/1763
             Andrew bp.28/10/1765

plus 3 more under Bolan:

Eleanor bp.23/3/1761
Elizabeth bp.4/7/1756
William bp.4/1/1754

As to the 1841 census - could be enumerators error, could be the way the question was asked and he misunderstood saying 'no' meaning he wasn't born where he was living. 
 
Seems to me the 1841 census Luke is the one whose childrens baptisms you list and he is the one born Lanchester.

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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 December 13 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette, thanks for your response.
The problem is that I knew about that baptism and his parents/siblings but I did not know the full details on his children's baptisms, the bit that was omitted was he was a native of Lanchester, that solves one dilemma.

Great I accept that. However in 1841 census record for the same person states that he was not born in the County of Durham?

Your thoughts would be most welcome.

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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 December 13 01:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Colin

I did give my thoughts re. 1841 census in my posting.   

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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 December 13 10:42 GMT (UK) »
I agree that the Luke Bolam in 1841 in Great Lumley, aged 87, is almost certainly the right one.

I think the Luke Bolam in your thread on the Durham Board, a Sinker who fell down a big hole at a pit in Fence Houses in 1808 is almost certainly the same person as well.

Your Luke is living in Great Lumley in 1811, still a Sinker, and Great Lumley is only about 3 miles from Fence Houses.

6 Oct 1811 Elizabeth Bolam, of Great Lumley, born 20 Aug 1811, 5th daughter of Luke Bolam, Sinker, Native of Lanchester, by his wife Margaret Jopling, Native of Great Lumley.

The likelihood of there being two Luke Bolams, both Sinkers, living in the small area is pretty remote, so he must have survived.

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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 December 13 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette, I was having computer problems last night and only saw half of your message.

Whilst I accept that errors did occur, on this occasion, the enumerators N very clear,
Luke was with his youngest daughter Elizabeth now married, (Curry) and she was born in the county?

So maybe Luke was born elsewhere but baptised in Lanchester.

Thanks for your help

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Re: Luke Bolam or maybe Boland
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 December 13 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Alan, it does appear to be the case. Luke had a son William in 1807, accident in 1808, Elizabeth 1811.

Thanks to you and all for your help.

Regards

Colin
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