birth in 1867

[Annette7]

When she married in Oct. 1892 she states she is 24 i.e. bc.1868 - I cannot trace Edward and Sarah in 1901 (to hopefully confirm her birthplace was indeed Birmingham) - but in 1911 she gives her age as 39 i.e. bc.1872 and born Birmingham.

Have you found them in 1901?   Have you found either of them in 1891?

So far, we only know she married in Birmingham and this is stated as her birthplace in 1911 but really need further confirmation to collaborate this.

I do sympathise - when the name is Smith it's harder than most.   It would certainly seem that the information given by Sarah when she married is inaccurate which doesn't help.

Annette

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Previous thread on Sarah and her spouse, to avoid duplication of work

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=672783.0

[gillianR]

Hello Annette

The 1911 Census for Edward Hunter where his wife Sarah is age 39, I have printed off.
Going by Sarah's age, she was born 1872.
The family on this 1911 is correct.

Edith and Florence is on the 1901 Census with their grandparents, the Cross family, this also is
correct.

I have found a Sarah Smith on the 1891 where she is 19 yrs old and a domestic servant,Single, born Birmingham. On this census she is in Handsworth, not far from where she lived.

I looked for a birth for Sarah in 1872 and found 2, parents for the one was John Henry and Elizabeth, and parents for the other one was James and Sarah, which could be the one as the name Sarah is carried through.

The marriage of Sarah Florence is the WRONG one in 1892, and like you, I cannot find a marriage for 'my Sarah' who according to the 1911 had been married for 11 years, taking that from 1911 gives us the marriage date of 1892

On the 1901 Census, I have found a Sarah Smith born 1877 with parents James and Sarah.
Sarah age 24 is a French Polisher and single, born in Birmingham.

This is going from bad to worse:(

I really don't know what to do:(  Whiskey and Paracetamol???

Regards
Gillianr

[jim1]

Sarah' who according to the 1911 had been married for 11 years, taking that from 1911 gives us the marriage date of 1892

1900

[gillianR]

Jim1

Typing error:)  19 off 1911 is 1892


Regards
Gillianr

[Annette7]

At the moment I can't see anyway round it.   

You have the right certificate - it's just the information given by Sarah that doesn't add up.

What doesn't help is that Edward, Sarah, Doris and Horace are not on the 1901 census - whether they were accidentally missed, or simply evaded the enumerator, who knows.   I've looked at 2 different sites and there is no trace of them.

Perhaps Sarah had something to hide hence incorrect information given by her when she married.  Who can say?

Annette

[gillianR]

Hello Annette,
Sorry to be a nuisance, but, in your last message to me, you are telling me I have the right certificate.
Will you tell me which certificate you are referring to?
Once I know, then perhaps I can go a stage further, but I would rather do this a bit at a time.
Can we go PM?? if I have got that right!!
Regards
Gillianr

[gillianR]

Hi Annette

I have found Horace Hunter on the 1901 Census, age 0, born Birmingham.
I found it on 'Find My Past', but I am not with them, but I have a friend who is,
and he will send the actual census return to me:)
Will let you know.

Like you though, I could not find Doris on the 1901 anywhere:(

Regards
Gillianr

[Annette7]

The 'certificate' I referred to was the one you last mentioned i.e. the marriage certificate.   The groom is definitely right, just the information given by Sarah, calling herself Sarah Florence, just doesn't add up.

The Horace you refer to in 1901 census is the same one that's on Anc.   He's not your one but the son of a James and Leah and aged 2 months.

I don't think continuing by PM is a good idea - all discussion needs to be on this thread so all can follow.

However, since we don't have a magic wand I really don't know how we can uncover the real Sarah Smith when the information given by her when she married Edward(Edwin) is apparently untrue.

Annette