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Offline aj57

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Familyseach or LDS churches
« on: Sunday 19 June 05 22:49 BST (UK) »
What is the difference between looking on the internet 'familysearch or visiting LDS churches?
The feedback from this site suggests LDS,do they have more information etc.

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Re: Familyseach or LDS churches
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 June 05 23:33 BST (UK) »
To avoid dissapointment I should point out first any family history research is done at their Family History Centers (FHC) not their church.

The familysearch site is a convenient access point for many of the databases held by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). On it one may search and confirm many details but at best these are simply transcripts of records.
By visiting a FHC one may view the holdings of that particular center and order items such as parish registers of practically any parish in the UK for little more than the postage charge.
See the online catalogue for more details of what can be ordered.

In addition there may be willing helpers who may help with records you are not accustomed to, ordering microfiche/film etc., etc.
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Re: Familyseach or LDS churches
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 June 05 06:06 BST (UK) »
Just to add a snippet to Guy's excellent reply ...
The IGI on FamilySearch is often incomplete.  For instance, there are many instances where only the girls have been extracted from the Church Register into the online IGI - although, of course, there is the normal complement of boys and girls in the actual records.
The Scottish Church Records CD which the LDS FHC's have available for consultation includes the boys as well - and often fills in other gaps.

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 June 05 15:53 BST (UK) »
Its also worth noting that the LDS have a number of films that have not been indexed (My current example is marriages in Wendron, Cornwall after about 1770). Although manually searching the films is rather a slow process, it is an available option through a family history centre.

Trish
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Re: Familyseach or LDS churches
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 June 05 23:44 BST (UK) »
I've got no chance of getting to the nearest  FHC in the near future due to alot of factors. I'm enouraged though by the replies in this thread already. Would I be right in saying that I can order most of the stuff I am looking for online without having to visit the FHC?

I've noticed from a 1841 Census extract I have that  of 7 children in a household in Barony only 3 births appear in an OPR search. I was hoping to look for these births in Barony which took place between 1822 and 1841. Would I be able to order a CD to look for this information?

Additionally I wouldn't mind getting my hands on 1851 and 1861 census returns for Barony if the cost was not too much. Any idea is these can be purchased too or where they can be purchased?

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 June 05 01:58 BST (UK) »
I've got no chance of getting to the nearest  FHC in the near future due to alot of factors. I'm enouraged though by the replies in this thread already. Would I be right in saying that I can order most of the stuff I am looking for online without having to visit the FHC?

Hi Robert

If you wish to look at the parish records held by the LDS you have to visit an LDS centre. Only the indexes (and probably not all of them) are available online. They do have some items for sale which you can check on their website.

ScotlandsPeople has the indexes for OPR births and marriages online (pay per view). They supposedly have all available records and do have some that are missing from the IGI. Presumably you could also buy the BVRI index, which has been discussed quite often in the Common Room. It reportedly has records not on the IGI.

I currently have some spare credits on ScotPeople which expire Saturday. If you would like to give me the detail of your Barony folk I will look for them for you.

Hope this helps

Trish
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Re: Familyseach or LDS churches
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 June 05 17:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for the offer Trish and the information. I've tried Scotland's People and unfortuntely had no luck there. It seems strange to be that the couple would register their marriage and the birth of 3 of their children without registering the other 4 children.  I've broadened my search to the whole of Scotland without success but as the family was still living in Barony in 1841 I think that's where the births would be registered.

I found the 3 OPR births that do exact on Scotland's people- although one the father on one of them is wrongly transcribed. It looks like I'll have to wait until I get the opportunity to get to an LDS some time in the future.

I'll have a look in the Common Room for a discussion on the BVRI index as I don't know what this is. I did read on the Scottish GRO site that there is an index of missing OPR entries so hopefully this is similar.

Thanks for the help.

Robert
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 June 05 23:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Robert

As far as I know (someone else may correct me), if it's not on SP you probably won't find it!

I have one family of 12. I have the baptism/birth of 11 (5 from SP and 6 in Australia). I have the marriage & the parents' births - but have searched every known variation in every parish & cannot find the firstborn. SP has gained many pounds (many more oz $) from my missing lass.

Good luck with your search

Trish
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 July 05 02:24 BST (UK) »
Just to add a snippet to Guy's excellent reply ...
The IGI on FamilySearch is often incomplete.  For instance, there are many instances where only the girls have been extracted from the Church Register into the online IGI - although, of course, there is the normal complement of boys and girls in the actual records.
The Scottish Church Records CD which the LDS FHC's have available for consultation includes the boys as well - and often fills in other gaps.

JAP

The IGI fiches, available at all LDS Family History Centers do include nearly all of the entries in the Scottish OPRs, apart from a few of the entries in the parishes in the deep SW of Scotland.

ibi