Author Topic: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania  (Read 2958 times)

Offline Lectu

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 7
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« on: Saturday 25 January 14 05:39 GMT (UK) »
Robert and Sarah came to Australia aboard "Northumberland" c 1852.  I have a family member descended from their daughter Mary Rebecca King b 30 April 1854 in Longford, Tasmania.  Mary Rebecca has distinct Mediterranean features and a very Anglicised name which is mystifying.  How could I find out what her origins are ?  So far all I have is that Robert and Sarah came from Lincolnshire.   Robert's fa was Thomas king, Mo Alice Thulby or Thurlby, Sarah's pa John Strickland and Rebecca King.

Offline judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,078
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 January 14 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Tasportal only has a birthdate for Sarah STRICKLAND (1823), no other information.  The only mention that I can see for Robert is the shipping record below.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8

Tasportal shows Robert's arrival:
Robert KING, per Northumberland      20 Feb 1853   & 1 male (?) child   
Ref: CSO24/1/216 p120 p127
No mention of Sarah, and no mention of the port of departure.

This may be Robert and Sarah's marriage:
Marriages, Jun qr 1851, registered at Spalding, Lincolnshire, Vol 14, p1071
Sarah STRICKLAND    and on the same page:
Robert KING
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Wondering if this is another child born to Robert and Sarah - Surfleet is in the registration district of Spalding.
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

St Lawrence church, Surfleet, Lincolnshire   
16 May 1852
Rebecca, dau of Robert and Sarah KING
Abode   Seasend Surfleet
Father's Occupation   Labourer

Doesn't help find your Mary Rebecca though  :(

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,078
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 January 14 07:23 GMT (UK) »
Is this her marraige?

Tasmania, 1875, reg 620 at Port Sorell
Mary Rebecca KING
George Linden SHADBOLT
Marriage Date:   21 Sep 1875


I am a little confused.  You say you are looking for her 'origins' but you know her parents' names.  Do you mean you are wanting to go back further?

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online cupoflife

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,649
  • Australia
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 January 14 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Mary Rebecca has distinct Mediterranean features and a very Anglicised name which is mystifying.

Judith, I think 'Lectu' is trying to find out which ancestor is responsible for Mary Rebecca's Mediterranean features.

cheers :)
cupoflife


Offline judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,078
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 January 14 12:50 GMT (UK) »
All of the places mentioned in my previous post and in this one are within a few miles of each other and easily seen on Googlemap.

Possibly Sarah's baptism:

St Mary the Virgin church, Frampton, Lincolnshire
RegisterNumber   196
DateOfBirth   29 Mar 1823
BaptismDate   30 Mar 1823
Sarah, dau of John STRICKLAND and Rebecca
Abode:   Frampton
Father's Occupation:   Shoemaker   
File Number   15299

Probable siblings, all baptised same church and with same parents, (dates are for the baptisms not births)
13 Feb 1825 Thomas   STRICKLAND
22 Apr 1827 Ann   STRICKLAND
18 Jul 1830 Mary   STRICKLAND   
17 Jun 1832 Rebecca   STRICKLAND   
05 Apr 1835 John   STRICKLAND   (Father's occ shown as 'gardener' this time)

Here is this family in 1841 but without Sarah who would have been aged 18 so was possibly elsewhere.
Living at Sea Rd, Frampton, all born in Lincolnshire
John Strickland   45, shoemaker,
Rebecca Strickland   45
Thos Strickland   15
Mary Strickland   10
Rebecca Strickland   8
John Strickland   6

Parents in 1851, living at Church End, Frampton
John Strickland   54, b North Luffenham, Rutland, Master Cordwainer
Rebecca Strickland   56, b Moulton, Lincs
Rebecca Strickland   18, b Frampton
John Strickland   16, b Frampton, Cordwainer apprentice

John STRICKLAND of Frampton and Rebecca KING married 22 November 1821, St Botolph's Boston

Seems as though Mary Rebecca's maternal line is composed of Lincolnshire village folk.

I can't see much for the KING family as there are quite a few entries with similar forenames so too difficult to separate.

Cheers, Judith


DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,078
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 January 14 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Possibly - but nowhere near enough info to be certain

1841 at Fosdyke, Lincolnshire
Robert KING, 20 (ages rounded in 1841 so not a reliable age), ag lab, born in Lincolnshire.

He may be in the household of
Edward Sutton   55
Mary Sutton   45
Dorothy Sutton   80
I's difficult to see whether they are the same household or separate.

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,078
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 January 14 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:

St Andrew's church, Heckington,   Lincolnshire
12 Aug 1813
Thomas KING of Aswarby
Alice THURLBY (her parish is not given which implies that she was living in the parish of Heckington)
Witnesses: Thomas GOODBARNE, Susana KING
FileNumber   19185

So, again, good Lincolnshire stock.

Unless Mary Rebecca was adopted or the off-spring of a relationship it would seem that her parents and grandparents are from Lincs.

Judith

My source for these BMDS is FreeReg.  They all fit neatly with the information you have given but these records are not necessarily correct.
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Lectu

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 7
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 January 14 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou Judith for your research and cupoflife for clarifying my request.
It is clear they are of English stock so the only option is adoption. I have in mind too that many Spanish settled in Ireland at the time of the Armada and wonder if there is a connection here to explore? A mystery !
Many descendants of Mary Rebecca Shadbolt(nee King) even today show random darker skin and/or eyes that affirm my idea that there is Mediterranean ancestry there somewhere.

Offline Lectu

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 7
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Robert King and Sarah Strickland Tasmania
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 January 14 07:13 GMT (UK) »
Looking back over the family more closely (been a while) since you have been so helpful Judith,  I see that Rebecca b 16 May 1852 died on board the 'Northumberland' en route to Australia (Tasmania) 27 December 1852.  Mary Rebecca was born  1854 in Longford, Tasmania so it doesn't really bode well for adoption, but not impossible of course. I also rememer that I have a newspaper interview with Mary Rebecca when she was in her eighties in Ulverstone, Tasmania commenting she was well versed in the Spanish language !  She also mentioned their settlement at Sassafras in a thickly forested area, and a visit by bushrangers.
Well, the plot thickens I guess !  :-)
Three sons followed for Robert and Sarah King from 1856 to 1860.