Thomas Devine death

[jean.ellison]

Hi, I am trying to find the death of my gg grandfather, Thomas Devine, born 1839, Salford, Lancs, I have his birth certificate and have him in the 1841 to 1881 census, he was a Bricklayer by trade and his wife was Mary Ann Kennedy, although he was never with her in any of the census, they had two children Rosannah and John. I think I have just found him in the 1891 census as an inmate in Strangeways prison although on the index it says he is 25, on the image it looks more like 55, but his occupation is still the same, in 1901 I think I have him in the Salford District Union Workhouse, listed as a Retired Bricklayer but age 71, trouble is I cannot find a death that fits in with him, the only ones I have found that seem to fit are one in 1881, aged 41, but this is not him and one in 1904 in Chorlton, but after sending for certificate this was also not mine, any one help find him in the index to enable me to get the correct certificate?, best wishes, Jean

[t mo]

evening jean
found this one for a Thomas devine reg dist prescot  jan-mar 1901 age 61 vol 8b p486
regards
trevor

[jean.ellison]

Thanks Trevor, will give this one a try, third time lucky, I hope, best wishes, Jean

[marrle]

Hi Jean,

The Thomas Trevor found is buried in St,Helens Cemetery public grave 22/219.

Regards Margie.

[jean.ellison]

Hi, thank you for your reply, if this Thomas is buried in St Helen's I would doubt if he is mine, his family all lived in Salford, his wife died in 1909, there and I hope he would have been buried with her, trouble is I can't find any that match, unless he is listed under some spelling error, will keep trying, best wishes, Jean

[garstonite]

Was he RC or Cof E ?...

[garstonite]

So the family moved out of Salford ?
they married in Chorlton
was Rosannah born in Chorlton in 1870 ?
no marriage for Rosannah ??...if so - where was she married ...can`t see one on freebmd
was John b Chorlton - did he marry ?

[jan57]

So the family moved out of Salford ?
they married in Chorlton
was Rosannah born in Chorlton in 1870 ?
no marriage for Rosannah ??...if so - where was she married ...can`t see one on freebmd
was John b Chorlton - did he marry ?

 1891  census  Class: RG12; Piece: 3224; Folio: 105; Page: 20;

 Rosannah is  down as Rose   born Manchester  ,  and John  as being born Salford  ,   There's  a  marriage  of  a Rose Devine  in 1894  to a Cornelius  Langshaw.

1901   has  Rose Langshaw and  children     with   mother Mary Ann Devine   in Broughton

[jean.ellison]

Hi, yes, Rose married Cornelius Langshaw, a Policeman, they lived at Mulgrave St, Salford, until their deaths, I just cannot find Thomas Devine's Death, if it is him in 1901 in the Salford Union workhouse, I would have expected his death to be there, but none fit, best wishes, Jean
Ps his wife Mary Ann is listed as Married in the 1891 and 1901 census and both have gone by 1911, Mary Ann died in 1909.