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2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« on: Monday 03 February 14 10:12 GMT (UK) »
As my contribution to the 1914 centenary I have transcribed the Battalion War Diary of the 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders from the commencement of the War  up to October 1916 . I have added all known casualties with Grave or panel references . I can forward  info to anyone interested.
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Rutherglen;Baird/Adair/Ferguson/Reid
Strathaven;Shearer , Orr
Beith;Steel 
Glasgow;Donnelly,McSorley,Burns
County Tyrone;McSorley
Eaglesham;Paton
 All;McAlonan and variants 
Sligo;Burns 
2nd. bat Seaforth Highlanders 1914-16.
2nd. bat. KOSB 1914-18.
1/8th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-15
5th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-17
1st. Bat. Scots Guards 1914-15
HMS Biarritz 1915-16
K Class Submarines  K10 and K11

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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 February 14 14:42 GMT (UK) »
well done you !
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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 May 14 21:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you Baird for your kind offer, I would be very interested, I have a Cpl John Ross in the 2nd battalion 4th div, he was a casualty but died October 1817 later than your list . Nikiitah.

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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 08:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Nikitah,
Corporal 241337 John Ross was killed 4th October 1917, the first day of what was called the 3rd Battle of Ypres.
There is a large entry in the diary as the 2nd were the assault battalion for the Division and suffered heavily that day. Total casualties for the month were 457.
I'll transcribe the diary entry and if you send me a pm with your e mail address I'll forward it when I've got it transcribed.
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Rutherglen;Baird/Adair/Ferguson/Reid
Strathaven;Shearer , Orr
Beith;Steel 
Glasgow;Donnelly,McSorley,Burns
County Tyrone;McSorley
Eaglesham;Paton
 All;McAlonan and variants 
Sligo;Burns 
2nd. bat Seaforth Highlanders 1914-16.
2nd. bat. KOSB 1914-18.
1/8th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-15
5th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-17
1st. Bat. Scots Guards 1914-15
HMS Biarritz 1915-16
K Class Submarines  K10 and K11


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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 09:13 BST (UK) »
"The Battalion formed up for attack by zero -1 hour on correct alignment in touch with 1st Hampshire on right and R Dublin Fusiliers on left. Coys were closed up to total depth of 120 yards to get clear of EAGLE trench which would have broken formations. Two leading platoons of each assaulting coy carried trench boards in cue of difficulty being found in crossing water and marsh between starting point and KANGAROO trench and LAUDETBEEK. Platoons were to advance in succession under cover of the creeping barrage at correct distances of 100yards between platoons and 150 yards between coys with moppers coy HQs 50 yards in rear of the platoon of each coy.

At zero hour (6 am) leading platoons advanced into barrage, but found great difficulty in keeping alignment owin to water forcing them to follow best ground or the marsh. This caused confusion and resulted in formation of assaulting coys being lost, especially on left where the leading wave walked into our own barrage. KANGAROO trench was reached without coys, platoons being able to disentangle themselves enemy who showed resistance being bayonetted and remainder being passed back. A total of about 25 men were taken prisoner on the front up to KANGAROO trench, including several men were killed by enemy barrage fire on their way back. The left assaulting coy came into some resistance and did not take many prisoners. Coy SM Bain killing 15 enemy to his own bayonet. As the advance proceeded coys endeavoured to regain formation but this was found to be impossible owing to confusion and the excited condition of the men. Up to BEEK STREET trench casualties were not heavy, but from that point onwards machine gun fire was encountered, from left flank generally and this fire caused considerable casualties, both coy commanders and 6 of their platoon commanders of the two left coys being put out of action. Continuing their advance towards their objective, the left coy captured the fortified houses and the right coy advance over 19 Metre Hill. The left coys were unable to advance further, where the remaining men established themselves in shell holes. "
This is a summary of events.Let me know if you want anymore information.
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Rutherglen;Baird/Adair/Ferguson/Reid
Strathaven;Shearer , Orr
Beith;Steel 
Glasgow;Donnelly,McSorley,Burns
County Tyrone;McSorley
Eaglesham;Paton
 All;McAlonan and variants 
Sligo;Burns 
2nd. bat Seaforth Highlanders 1914-16.
2nd. bat. KOSB 1914-18.
1/8th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-15
5th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-17
1st. Bat. Scots Guards 1914-15
HMS Biarritz 1915-16
K Class Submarines  K10 and K11

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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 11:20 BST (UK) »
Corporal 241337 John Ross was killed 4th October 1917, the first day of what was called the 3rd Battle of Ypres.

It might have been the first day of the battle for the 2nd Seaforths, but 3rd Ypres started back in July. The 2nd Seaforths' division (4th Div) actually joined the battle a week earlier in the Battle of Polygon Wood, perhaps the Seaforths were in reserve in that offensive?

4 October saw the start of the Battle of Broodseinde (one of the sub-battles of 3rd Ypres) - there is a pretty good account at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Broodseinde

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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 13:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Baird and newburychap, such a sad loss of life, do either of you know when they first embarked?.
        Baird, is there anything else you think would be of interest? do you still want me to pm you?. many thanks, Nikitah

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 16:35 BST (UK) »
If you check out his medal card at the national archives it should give you his date of entry into the war zone and which medals he was entitled

baird
Rutherglen;Baird/Adair/Ferguson/Reid
Strathaven;Shearer , Orr
Beith;Steel 
Glasgow;Donnelly,McSorley,Burns
County Tyrone;McSorley
Eaglesham;Paton
 All;McAlonan and variants 
Sligo;Burns 
2nd. bat Seaforth Highlanders 1914-16.
2nd. bat. KOSB 1914-18.
1/8th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-15
5th. Bat. Cameronians 1914-17
1st. Bat. Scots Guards 1914-15
HMS Biarritz 1915-16
K Class Submarines  K10 and K11

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Re: 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders 1914-1916
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 21:00 BST (UK) »
Baird, thank you. Nikitah.