Looking for the birth of a Mary in Braintree around 1796.

[BePauline]

Possible surnames include Summers, Fleming and Gradwell, but could be anything.

She married a James Goodwin and their first child who survived was born in 1826 so we assume she was married in the few years previous to that.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

[t mo]

hi
well as far as it goes she didn,t marry james Goodwin in Braintree between 1813 - 1827 just checked the register .
can you give more detail as to your reasons for saying her maiden name could be and including , summers -fleming or gradwell .
it,s possible she and james wed in bocking which is just down the road .
regards
trevor

[trish1120]

Harrietts 1842 Birth Cert will have Marys maiden name.

Birth Reg;
Harriet GOODWIN, Dec 1841, Braintree, 12 26

WILLIAM SUMMERS Goodwin was Christened 17 Feb 1826, Braintree to JAMES/MARY
I guess this is where the possible maiden name for Mary comes from.

1841 we have;
James 40
Mary 45
William 15
James 13
Mary 11
Charles 10
John 7
Emma 6
Thomas 4

1851 William/James/Charles/Emma/Thomas are at Home + Harriett c 1842

Possible?
Marriage;
08 Nov 1819, St Thomas the Apostle, Navestock, Essex
James GOODWANE
Mary PATIENT
Witnesses, Mary GOODWANE/Joseph PALMER

OOPS differrent Family according to a Tree. 1851 living in Navestock!

I would get Harriets Birth Cert

[trish1120]

James GOODWIN
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975   
christening: 13 May 1800, Kendal, Westmorland, England
residence:   Kendal, Westmoreland, England   
father:    Joseph Goodwin
mother:    Elizabeth Goodwin

Joseph GOODWIN Married Elizabeth GRADWELL, 30 June 1799, Kendal, Westmoreland

[trish1120]

To throw another few names into the mix! May help others who are searching;

Birth Regs;
GOODWIN    William Walters Summers Gradwell, March 1862, Braintree, 4a 320
GOODWIN    Gradwell Fleming, Set 1864, Braintree, 4a 322

They were the Sons of Ellen WALTERS who Married John GOODWIN 1861 Essex
Other Children were, Ellen 1864/Gerald 1867
1881 John  Goodwin is born c 1834 Braintree and is Widowed, living in Notts    

[t mo]

just checked bocking register from 1813 -1830 and they aren,t in that either but did find these which may be part of the Goodwin family your after
timothy Goodwin  wed mary ann everard 15 nov 1825
Thomas Goodwin  wed Eleanor forsdyke 15 jan 1829
forgot to post this one yesterday from the Braintree register .
Samuel Goodwin wed ann joslin 18 july 1816

as Trish says a birth cert of harriet should give maiden name of mother .
regards
trevor

[BePauline]

Thanks for all your help. We are in fact trying to find the father of Ellen Valters (mistranscribed as Walters). Her birth record and those of her siblings mention no father. 

Her mother was an annuitant and we're wondering where she got the annuity from. It could have been from the Ellen's father, or from the father of ellens half siblings, who we understand died before Ellen was born .... but know very little about the father of her half siblings. (Ellen's mother Sophia valters is a bit of a mystery. There have been several discussions on here trying to figure out who she was)

Because Ellen named her eldest son William Valters Summers Gradwell Goodwin ... And another son, Fleming, we are hoping one of these names is that of her actual father ... by a process of elimination.

So you've tracked down the Gradwell link, and probably the Summers link too. Great!!! .... And thank you!!!

This leaves just Fleming (or possibly something else completely different!) as possibilities for her father, but it could possibly be the maiden name of Mary's mum .... So it would be great if Mays mum could be figured out too ... And hopefully Mary was born Summers.

Pauline

[suffolk*sue]

St. Michael the Archangel, Braintree.

Mary Sommers
dau of William and Jane
born October 16th and baptised December 23rd. 1795.


William Summers married Jane Joslin in Braintree in 1790.



Ellen Valters married John Goodwin in Gt. Dunmow in 1861. The space where Ellens father would have been named has been left blank.
One of the witnesses was a William Blackborough Clapham, who in 1861 is living in Gt. Dunmow and listed as a surgeon.

[BePauline]

Thank you Suffolk Sue! You've been a great help.  So it looks like 'Flemming' could be daddy!!  Pity I can't find any likely Flemmings on the censuses.

Mr Clapham, born 1826, would have been rather young to be Ellen's father, especially if we assume that all her siblings had the same father and the earliest was born in 1839/40.

Ellen's mum continues to be a mystery ......

Thanks again.

Pauline