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Witness identification
« on: Saturday 15 March 14 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help me with how I should read the name of the second witness in this snippet of my ancesters' marriage certificate? Is this one person: Elener Luisa Emily Vinall, OR two: Elener Luisa and Emily Vinall, OR maybe Elener Luisa Vinall and Emily Vinall.

Also, can someone confirm the name of the officiant: Henry J ????
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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 March 14 13:46 GMT (UK) »
My guess is that there was one female witness - all names belonging to her.

Officiant - Henry H Hole [first letter looks a little like the 'K' of Kent, but the middle bar more like 'H' of Henry. 
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
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ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 March 14 13:49 GMT (UK) »
I would agree with the witness too.
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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 March 14 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to differ, but I think it's Henry T. Hole.

Crockford's shows a Henry Tubal HOLE as serving at St James, Tunbridge Wells, in 1876.

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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 March 14 16:38 GMT (UK) »
 ;D I got carried away with the 'H's as I'd meant to copy the OP's middle intial 'J' without reading it  :-[.

Yes, it's like the 'T' of 'The' in the church name & nothing like the 'J of 'St. James'.

Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 March 14 03:56 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried looking for Elener on the 1871 census or for her birth?
 

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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 March 14 04:08 GMT (UK) »
I'm in agreement that all the names belong to the same person and perhaps the mark that looks like a comma may be a hyphen eg Elener-Luisa.

Also, Henry T Hole as the official.
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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 March 14 04:42 GMT (UK) »
I think there are two witness names on the same line.

Emily Vinall is the second name on that line.

I wonder if the first name on that line is Elener Lewis - spelt incorrectly as Luise.

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Re: Witness identification
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 March 14 08:05 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if it's all the name of one person, but to me Emily Vinall is written in a different hand than the rest. The E is different to Ebenezer and Elener, for a start. Makes it likely a separate person, but not definitely, I suppose.

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