1901 Census Brickwall-Hill Family

[pirhana]

"My"Hill family consists of Richard (b. 1861 Liverpool -occupation-Ship's purser ), his wife Annie ( b. 1868 Shrewsbury ), daughter Alice ( b. 1890 Liverpool ), son Charles Victor ( b.1898 Liverpool ) and son Richard Henderson Hill ( b.1900 Birkenhead ).I can trace Annie and Alice living together on the 1891 census and almost the whole family on the 1911 census , but the 1901 census is giving me a headache. There's a Richard from Liverpool who is shown as a ship's fireman ( stoker? ), but I don't think that's "my" Richard. There's an 11 year old Alice shown who is living in Toxteth Park , but that's not "my" Alice as her father is shown as a James. I've found a 3 year old Charles Hill shown as a "boarder" but there's no sign of his mother Annie or other brother. As Richard was a sailor he may have been at sea when the census was taken, but the others? Has anyone got any suggestions?

Pirhana.

[heatherjulie]

Baptism: 2 Mar 1898 St Clement, Toxteth, Lancashire, England
Charles Victor Hill - [Child] of Richard Hill & Annie
Born: 11 Dec 1897
Abode: 77 Egerton St.
Occupation: Store Keeper
Baptised by: H. Johnson

I wonder who was at that address in 1901?

Heather

[welsh lady]

And Death on Cwgc site
Charles Victor Hill
Died 12/09/1942 age 44
Merchant Navy
Son of Richard and Annie Hill
Husband of M Hill, of Sutton, Surrey
Tower Hill Memorial

Welsh lady

[Radcliff]

St Thomas , Seaforth,
8th August 1925,
Charles  Victor Hill, aged 27, seaman , bachelor,
66 Geraint St, Toxteth,
father Richard Hill, Seaman,
Mary Powell Robinson, aged 25,
10 Chesnut Rd
Father Edward Robinson, butcher,
witness to marriage Richard Henderson Hill and Barbara Burridge

[Radcliff]

Charles and his wife had two children baptised in the same church
May baptised ,16th May 1926
abode 26 Sandon St Waterloo,
God parents, Thomas Edward Robinson, Lily Hughes, and Elizabeth Beech,

Norman Edward,
18th April 1929,
abode ,13 Grecian St Seaforth,
God parents, Thomas Edward Robinson, Richard Hill and Margaret Ritson,


sorry three children, Richard Charles Victor Hill,
12th October 1927,
God parents, Thomas E Robinson, George Robinson and Eliz V Beech

[avm228]

Unfortunately they were not at 77 Egerton St in 1901. The occupants were three Burkes and a Geraty. RG13/3418/164/26.

[heywood]

Unfortunately they were not at 77 Egerton St in 1901. The occupants were three Burkes and a Geraty. RG13/3418/164/26.

Richard Henderson Hill was born 1900 in Birkenhead so unlikely they would be in Egerton Street. They are well hidden anyway

[pirhana]

To all who have replied so far, thanks for your help. I'm glad it isn't just me who can't find them!Although Richard Hill was described as a "Ship's Purser" he is also described as a "Storekeeper" and even "Ship's Storekeeper"on Alice's marriage certificate ( 1915 )when the family lived in Upper Hill Street.From there they moved to Geraint Street as mentioned by Radcliff.I was very vaguely aware from an aunt of mine that Charles Victor Hill had died during the Second World War so thanks to welsh lady for further info on that.

Pirhana