Archibald donald cameron worthing

[villagelass]

I am researching Archibald Donald CAMERON who died in Worthing Sussex in 1942.

Interested to learn if his sons married and had families.

Thank you

[Roy G]

Archibald was 74 when he died in Worthing giving him a birth year of circa 1868.
The name suggests Scottish roots, possibly even a Scottish marriage, so find the marriage, who to and start looking for children from that date.
A marriage in The Strand district of London in 1908 (to Louise Mollineux or May Croley) may be his, but that's conjecture
Roy G

[nanny jan]

Hi,

He appears in the National Probate Calendar so perhaps there will be details in his Will. A copy cost £6 and is available by post. Details of how to apply:

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/family-history


Nanny Jan

[Roy G]

Going by Ships passenger lists An Archibald Donald (or AD) Cameron was constantly on the move.   
Birth c1868
 1894 on route to East London, South Africa aboard the Drummond Castle
 1895 on the Moor bound for the Cape South Africa
 1901 New York
 1901 on the Oropesa out of Liverpool bound for Punta Areas in Chile
 1902 Port Said (Egypt)
 1903 New York
 1904 Port Said
 1906 Sydney Australia
 1907 on the Markgraf out of Dover for Mombassa
 1907 Melbourne Australia
 1907 on the Secondi out of Liverpool bound for Lagos
 1908 on the Colbert out of Liverpool bound for Punta Areas in Chile
             a Mrs Cameron was travelling with him.
 1908 New York
 1910 Lagos
 1912 aboard the Canada (not the Titanic) bound for Halifax Nova Scotia
 1912 Lagos
 1913 Lagos
 1913 Quebec
 1921 Accra Ghana
 1925 (aged 57) going from Southampton to Algiers (on the Princess Julianna)
 1925 going from Southampton to Algiers. (on the Vondel)
                36 year old Louse Margaret Cameron was traveling with him.
                Therefore wife was Louise Molineux and the 1908 marriage in The Strand was his.
 1926 going from London to Gibraltar (on the Kaiser I Hind)
 1927 going from London to Buenes Aries. (on the El Uruguayo)
 
You either have a high powered executive (eg White Star Line?), diplomat, or someone constantly on the run from the authorities.  Judging by the above, if he did have any children, there is every possibility they were born abroad.

Roy G

[Roy G]

There is also a piece about him on page 1412 of The London Gazette dated 27 March 1942.  That gives his full Worthing address, states he was a retired sheep farmer(?) but that lists no children.

Nor are there any children listed in the UK archives (1911-1940) whose father was a Cameron and mother a Molineux.  As I wrote, that is not to say there were none for you may have to look for any born abroad.
Roy G

[villagelass]

Thank you Roy. You have much more information than I have
I have  his records from birth, he was born a DOW in Scotland, but at some stage dropped this surname and used his mother's.

The two sons were born in South America where their father was an Estanica manager; they are also buried in Worthing.

Would be great to find any descendants who maybe unaware of their grandfather's parents.

He certainly travelled often on the best liners.

Onto will and death certs now - thank you Nanny Jan for the site to obtain his will.

Villagelass

[Roy G]

Glad to have helped. By the way, I did have the names of many of the other ships he travelled on, but as you may have noticed, I found so many records, I tired of inserting everything.

You mentioned that his two sons born abroad have since died and are also buried in Worthing.
As they are both deceased and were the focus of your original question where you were asking if any descendents of the line existed, it would help if you could give us their names and suggest an approximate year of birth/death for both of them.  They may also have left wills that you can obtain from the probate office, and these may name the other family members you were interested in.

Roy G

[villagelass]

Roy, I was blown away by all the research you did; on a roll.

Sons names are, Allan Edward CAMERON b abt 1908 Punta Arenas and died Dec 1928, buried Worthing Cemetery, next to his parents.
Another Alan Edward CAMERON was born same time in Oban, Scotland, and he also travelled by sea.

Next son Alistair Andrew lived long enough to have married but he is buried with his brother and no wife. He was born in Buenos Aries 1918 and died Mar 1988. Never found this son on a shipping list.

These two boys were the only children in the next generation, none of their father's sibling's had a family. End of the line perhaps.

The family left SA in 1919 for England, have found no sign of that sailing. Know they came then as another family who wrote a letter and were going to UK for a holiday took their place on an earlier sailing as only one cabin available.

Villagelass

[Roy G]

Allan (or Alan) did a bit of travelling too, probably with his parents.
1910 to Australia, 1923 to China, 1925 to Algeria, 1926 to Gibraltar,
Noting that his parents only married in 1908, I feel some records that suggest Allan was born in 1907, may be incorrect.  There is an entry regarding a birth which MAY HAVE BEEN his registered in Marylebone district in 1910, which is only a short distance from the Strand where his parents married.  A note of his death is equally vague for my record has it that he died as a British National in France between 1926 and 1930.

As you say, Alistaire Andrew is harder to identify in public records, but assuming he may have travelled with his mother when only an infant, tracing her movements could be informative.
Algeria 1925, Egypt 1929, Kenya 1934, Australia 1935.
According to A Monro (Families in Southern Patagonia) she died in Worthing in 1976.
It is also highly probable that Alistaire was being educated in a residential school during some of those travelling times.  As you say, his death is recorded in Worthing in 1988.

FreeBMD gives Alistaire's marriage in Worthing in 1940 to Maude **** and their daughter was born in Worthing in 1944.  However, Rootshat policy obliges me not to reveal more details about those who may be still living.  I nevertheless feel sure that there may be enough info in this for you to personally investigate further, so I hope this info helps you find out more.

Regards Roy G