Newnham Murren or Crowmarsh look up request

[Tambora]

Hi,

I have a dead end in Mr Richard Scudds b 7-6-1835 in Newnham Murren.  I can find no record of his birth using the net, so am hoping someone out there might help me.

He left England for Australia in 1855 on the ship Constitution, and from here on I have alot of detail, but prior to this he seems to be non-existant.  His parents are listed as not known on his death certificate.

I have located another Richard Scudds who i think may be his father.  This richard b 1810 in Wallingford, but living in Newnham Murren at the 1861 census, married to Mary b 1810  They had son charles b1841 in Crowmarsh living with them at the time. 

There were a few Scudd's born around the same time and in either Newnham Murrenn or Crowmarsh as my Richard that may be brothers and sisters.  Israel b 1828 Newnham, Thomas b 1843, Sarah b 1836 Oxfordshire, John b 1828 Wallingford, James 1841 b Crowmarsh, elizabeth b1829 Crowmarsh, Benjamin b 1833 Oxfordshire.

I've spent alot of time trying to establish a link, but getting nowwhere and I'm not sure what to do now - this is all the information I have.

Frustrated.

[mikehicks]

Hi,
Have you tried the 1861 census?

Mike

[DebbieG]

Hi - I have had a look at this for you - I will tell you what I have found so far and you can make your own mind up

From the registers of Newnham Murren (transcripts on Microfiche from OFHS)

Baptisms - SCUDD(S) 1823-1840
1823 Elizabeth d/o Richard & MAry
1828 John s/o James & MAry
1828 Israel s/o Thomas & Sarah
1829 James s/o James & Mary
1831 Elizabeth d/o Elias & Lucy
1831 Elizabeth  d/o Thomas & Sarah
1831 Mary d/o Richard & Hannah
1832 Stephen s/o Thomas & Sarah
1834 Richard Scudds s/o Thomas and Sarah baptised 29th June - buried 2nd Nov 1934
1835 William s/o Elias & Lucy
1839 Eliza d/o Thomas & Sarah
1840 Edward s/o Elias & Lucy

From the registers of Crowmarsh Gifford 1828-1840 for SCUDD(S)
1833 Ann d/o Elias & Lucy
1837 George s/o John & Eliza

From the 1851 census for Crowmarsh SCUDD(S)

Richard 51 born newnham Murren
MAry aged 50 born Wallingford
Ben aged 18 born Newnahm Murren
Charles aged 11 born Newnham Murren

Visitors in house of Steven Gregory
Isreal aged 23 born Crowmarsh
Elizabeth aged 21
Charles aged 8m

From the 1851 census Newnham Murren Ho107/1690

Folio 444
SCUDDS
Thomas age 48 born Newnham
Sophia aged 56 born Brightwell
Stephen aged 18 born Newnham
JAmes aged 14 born Newnham
Eliza aged 11 born Newnham
Elizabeth aged 9 born Newnham
Thomas aged 7 born Sutton Wick

Elias aged 42 wid born newnham Murren
Mary aged 20 (dau)
William aged 14
Edmund aged 11

James aged 44 born N.M.
Mary aged 45 born N.M.

next door to the farm of Charles Fuller - lodging with other male unmarried farm labourers
Richard SCUDDS aged 16 Ag Labl born Crowmarsh Gifford


For what its worth - I think you are probably right that Richard & Mary were your Richards parents - they don't seem very particular about having their kids baptised - not in the C of E church anyway - perhaps they were non-conformist?

The only way to be sure I think will be to track down the family in the 1841 census - sadly I don't have it - I think it is possible to purchase it on Microfiche from OFHS (so long as you have access to a reader)

Best of Luck

Debbie

[Tambora]

Who knows, I'm really confused - I mean it could be Thomas and Sarah were the parents - they had a Richard who died before turning 1, one year before the year of my Richard's birth.  Would they name the next child the same as one who had died?  There's also a gap where they didn't have any children according to this between 1834 and 1839, so it could be so.

I think this 16 yr old could be my Richard - the age is certainly right.

"next door to the farm of Charles Fuller - lodging with other male unmarried farm labourers"
Richard SCUDDS aged 16 Ag Labl born Crowmarsh Gifford

So, is there anyone out there with access to the 1841 census?

[DebbieG]

Hi Again

If nobody replies on here you could try Oxfordshire Family History Society at http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/#census41
who will do a search for you for a modest fee (£1.50 I think)
If you get a result either way and want to try and delve further back I have the register transcripts for both Newnham & Crowmarsh

Good lUck

Debbie

[Carmela]

Hi,
You could also post a look-up request on the RootsWeb
Oxfordshire Mailing List.
       http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/OXFORDSHIRE.html

HTH,
Carmela