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Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« on: Friday 28 March 14 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi all


I have obtained a copy of my 2 x gt grandfather Richard Henry Lewis birth certificate b.1875 in Kidderminster.  His parents were named as James Lewis & Ellen Lewis formally Jinks. 

So knowing this I searched for James & Ellen's marriage record on free bmd, and found one that seemed to match in 1874 in Dudley.  So I order that, which has now arrived.  Except the names are James Lewis & Elizabeth Jinks [not Ellen], with father called James Lewis & Richard Jinks.

So what I am asking is, is Ellen another form of the name Elizabeth?  or have I got the wrong marriage?   

Any help is greatly appreciated.   :)
Shaw, Dyson, McGarrigle, Jackson, Lewis, Jones, Lord, Broadhurst.

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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 March 14 18:14 GMT (UK) »
The 1881 shows mum as Ellen b 1854 Bilstone Staffs

James was b 1841 Kidderminster
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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 March 14 18:17 GMT (UK) »
www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk shows as follows for 1874

Ellen Jinks/James Lewis   Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box)   Sandwell Register Office   39/13/22
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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 March 14 18:22 GMT (UK) »
The freebmd entry shows her as both Ellen or Elizabeth

Marriages December qtr 1874 
 
Elizabeth Jink Dudley    6c   243    
Ellen   Jinks    
James Lewis   Dudley    6c   243
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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 March 14 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Marriage certificate I have says registration district as Dudley 'Marriage solomized at parish church in the parish of Tipton in county of Stafford.
Shaw, Dyson, McGarrigle, Jackson, Lewis, Jones, Lord, Broadhurst.

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 March 14 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Parish Church was St Martin as per WestMids BMD entry above
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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 March 14 20:19 GMT (UK) »
1861 entry shows her as Ellen aged 7 b Bilston - parents Henry & Ann.She has an 8yr old sister called Elizabeth b Wolverhampton

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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 March 14 21:43 GMT (UK) »
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1861 entry shows her as Ellen aged 7 b Bilston - parents Henry & Ann.She has an 8yr old sister called Elizabeth b Wolverhampton
This Ellen married Edwin Stringer in 1884. Father listed as Henry. She also appears in 1871 still with her family.
This must be the poster's Ellen in 1871:
RG10; Piece: 2988; Folio: 91; Page: 14
Can't see a birth/baptism for Ellen/Elizabeth also I can't see a Richard Jinks in Staffs.
Possibly she's illegitimate & made up his name.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Difference in names on marriage & childs birth certificates?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 March 14 22:30 GMT (UK) »
1861 indexed as Jenks - all children b Bilston except Joseph Green

Richard Jenks 42 pit sinker b Staffs
Hariot  43 b Staffs
Benjamin  15 b
Ellen  8
Mary Ann     6
Aaron J 3
Joseph Green 19 shown as son b Walsall
RG9 Piece 2004 Folio 33 Page 10

Per freebmd - Richard Jenks (not Jinks) married Harriet Inskip December qtr 1844  Dudley    18 392

Baptism here

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NBN4-MJC
   
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