trifonio pacella

[chris47]

Hello.
A friend is trying to trace Information on Trifonio Pacella born 1871 italy.( parents etc )

Trifonio had a Daughter Josephine Francis born 1912 Shoreditch.

Her mother Alice Farrell born 1870..1875 at sea.

Pat (friend ) told me they may not have married.

Best Regards.

Chris.

[KGarrad]

You need to look at the 1911 census for Trifoni Pacella and family!

He is there with 4 daughters and an Alice Farrer?!


(Mods: taken from a free index!)

[chris47]

Thank you for your advice..KGarrad....chris

[KGarrad]

1901 census: Class: RG13; Piece: 1575; Folio: 53; Page: 35
193 Grange Road, West Ham, Essex

Pacella, Trefonis (Transcribed on Ancestry as Cufonis!)  Head  M  31  Shopkeeper Refreshments  b Italy
Pacella, Francesca S  Wife  F  22  b Italy
Pacella, Maris F  Daughter  F  3 months  b Canning Town

[jorose]

Difficult without knowing where in Italy he's from (no national indexes).  Perhaps Francesca left/went back to Italy? In addition to the four children visible on the 1911 index, there's a pair of twins in 1906 (no trace), and a daughter Teresa b. late 1908 and died early 1909 that can be seen at freebmd.

Josephine's birth is almost certainly the one indexed as Paella/Paclla on freebmd.rootsweb.com , mother's maiden name Cloake.  Your friend should get this certificate as there does seem to be some confusion over Alice's name.

I cannot see any obvious death for him, or for Alice, or a marriage of Josephine - although some of the daughters seem to have stayed in the UK and married.  Did Alice perhaps marry someone else and Josephine was raised under that name? Or he and Alice stay together and they all changed their name to something more English-sounding?

[KGarrad]

Births, March qtr 1901
West Ham district    vol 4a, page 150
Pacella, Maria Filomena


March qtr 1902
West Ham district    vol 4a, page 84
Pacella, Carmela


September qtr 1903
West Ham district    vol 4a, page 122
Pacella, Annina


June qtr 1905
West Ham district    vol 4a, page 73
Pacella, Trofimenn


December qtr 1906
West Ham district    vol 4a, page 124
Pacella, Joseph
Pacella, Venturella


September qtr 1908
Shoreditch district    vol 1c, page 12
Pacella, Teresa

[KGarrad]

Just thinking here:

Trfonis was a widower in 1911 but, as Francesca was Italian would her death have been reported to GRO? Or to the Italian Embassy?

There is a death for Teresa in 1909.
March qtr 1909
Shoreditch    vol 1c, page 31
Pacella, Teresa    age 0

[KGarrad]

Josephine's birth is almost certainly the one indexed as Paella/Paclla on freebmd.rootsweb.com , mother's maiden name Cloake.  Your friend should get this certificate as there does seem to be some confusion over Alice's name.

According to a tree on Ancestry, Alice Cloake married John Farrell.
John left the family home leaving Alice with 3 young boys, who were placed in Shoreditch Workhouse.
Alice then worked for Trefonis Pacella.

Hence the confusion?!

[jorose]

If she died in England or Wales, a death certificate would need be issued before any burial took place, whether she was a British subject or not.

It is possible that she is down under another name (mistranscribed, confusion over the spelling, etc), or that she travelled back to Italy and died there.

Not seeing any sign of a marriage for Alice to John.