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His parents were Alexander and Ann (nee Fraser) McKenzie who married in Boularderie 25 July 1825. I don't know when he was born but I think it would have been about 1820, if his age in his death notice is correct. Most of the family went to NZ aboard Breadalbane in 1856/57 except for Donald, who I have no information about at all. There was a story that he came to NZ later on - but I have never found any proof of that.
Any help/suggestions gratefully accepted.
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Jan
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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 April 14 21:17 BST (UK) »
Where did you find that death information? Could you give us the particulars ? If we are looking for someone it would be good to have more information on the actual family ...You have it but we have to go looking for it...
Duncan born Oct. 20, 1827  James born August 17, 1829  (Says Boulintre  ;D Cape Breton)
baptism for both 26 August 1829  Belfast , P E I, St John's Presbyterian
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12692-22933-2?cc=1827217
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12692-22388-25?cc=1827217

Was Duncan another who did not go with family?  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWZ6-NX6  Mind you I see now there were a lot of Mckenzie families in Cape Breton

I see there were seven on board, so 5 children were with them? Can you name those who did go?  http://lemac2.tripod.com/index-126.html

Oh, dear and this N.Z. newspaper has misinterpreted the 7 as meaning how many children were with them...It has other errors as well, as they've missed James McKenzie on the list unless that James was but doubt that was it
http://www.ozlists.com/genies/shipping/news_nz/nl5804.htm
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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 April 14 03:50 BST (UK) »
I found out about Donald's death with this notice

IN MEMORIAL.

MCKENZIE.— loving memory of my dear brother Donald, who (lied June 22, 1890, aged 68. Woe is me for my hurt; my wound is grievous; but I said trulearliery this is grief, and I must bear it. —Inserted by his sorrowing sister, C. Gell.

This was placed by his sister Christina Gell (nee McKenzie)

Six of the children went to NZ with their parents Alexander Mhor McKenzie and Ann nee Fraser
William Alisdair b 16 Apr 1826 Cape Breton - he married Annabella Sutherland earlier in 1857.
James Rory b 17 Aug 1829, bap 26 Aug 1829, marr 30 Oct 1855 Jessie Og McDonald, Rockland, Maine
Christina b abt 1831 Cape Breton, d 03 Sept 1906 Waipu, NZ (my great grandmother)
Jessie b abt 1831 Cape Breton, d 04 Nov 1903 Waipu, NZ
Johanna Barbara b 20 Aug 1842 Ballentry, NS, d 13 Aug 1828 Campsie, NSW, Australia
Murdoch b abt 1844 Boularderie, Cape Breton, d 30 Aug 1915 Greymouth, NZ

2 stayed behind
Duncan b 20 Oct 1827 Cape Breton, d 17 Mar 1869, Provincetown, Mass
Donald b abt 1836? Boularderie, Cape Breton, death 22 Jun 1890 unknown where.

I don't have proof or exact dates for Christina, Jessie (but I have never heard they were twins) Murdoch or Donald.

Hope this makes things a little clearer.
Regards
Jan

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Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Newport Mon: Hopes, Evans Haines Ball Harris
Louth/Sleaford: Goodson Cartwright Crosby Burkitt Pacey + others
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
Ross Shire: McKenzie Fraser McDonald McLennan
Ayrshire: Wallace Patrick Dickson

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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 April 14 21:47 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image it appears to be more a three as the bottom stroke tail is open at bottom left, and I see a distinct centre stroke to the left as well... so may be age 38 or 58...1852 or 1832 birth year the latter sounding better according to the year of marriage... http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yty/
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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 April 14 21:56 BST (UK) »
1871 census ... there is this 36 year old Blacksmith Boularderie ... http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396282_00054.pdf
This one a farmer in 1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008115499.jpg

It would take a bit of looking to narrow down missing from census, especially if already missing from earlier census, and he could have lived anywhere, really ...

 
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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 April 14 22:01 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image it appears to be more a three as the bottom stroke tail is open at bottom left, and I see a distinct centre stroke to the left as well... so may be age 38 or 58...1852 or 1832 birth year the latter sounding better according to the year of marriage... http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yty/
I think  1832 is correct - for some reason I think he was younger than Christina and Jessie also he'd have only been 5 when the rest of the family left for Nz
Enfield/Edmonton: Warren Ridler Jenkins Card Stevens Shelton Tookey
Stourpaine Dorset: Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett New Light Roberts Coward Read others
Ontario, Canada: Wallace Blow Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Newport Mon: Hopes, Evans Haines Ball Harris
Louth/Sleaford: Goodson Cartwright Crosby Burkitt Pacey + others
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
Ross Shire: McKenzie Fraser McDonald McLennan
Ayrshire: Wallace Patrick Dickson

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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 April 14 07:02 BST (UK) »
Did find the Blacksmith, now a farmer in 1881, but also found him in 1891  http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/jpg/30953_148123-00357.jpg so seems that one is out...Further searches found him claimed elsewhere as well... http://www.electricscotland.com/mackenzie/images/newssept2008.pdf
This was disappointing, thought I may have been on right track as one son was named James Fraser... but then it was as frequent a name as Mckenzie...

I also wonder why his sister did not put that he died Nova Scotia in her newspaper submission...Have you checked thoroughly to make sure he didn't die in N.Z. or Australia? 
The passenger list said 7 which would be 5 children, but the newspapers said 7 children. This would make sense I guess if the extra listings of James & William were the other two...but then, you've listed six...
You'd also stated in first posting that Donald was the only one left behind, but my questioning the death in the U.S. prompted your post that Duncan was also left behind...

Have you checked for any existing obits of the parents & children to see if Donald was mentioned in them?
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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 April 14 10:30 BST (UK) »
I do know that Duncan died in Provincetown - he was hit in the head by a spar on a fishing boat. And I have death details for all those that went to NZ, maybe the 7th person was James Rory's wife, as William and Annabella were on the passenger list in their own right (according to my copy of 'The Gael fares Forth' ) I though perhaps Donald also went to Provincetown, or I just thought now that perhaps he went to Maine with James Rory and stayed there. I don't know what James did in Maine.
Regards
Jan
Enfield/Edmonton: Warren Ridler Jenkins Card Stevens Shelton Tookey
Stourpaine Dorset: Ball Haine/Hain/Hayne, Ferrett New Light Roberts Coward Read others
Ontario, Canada: Wallace Blow Goodson
Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Newport Mon: Hopes, Evans Haines Ball Harris
Louth/Sleaford: Goodson Cartwright Crosby Burkitt Pacey + others
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
Ross Shire: McKenzie Fraser McDonald McLennan
Ayrshire: Wallace Patrick Dickson

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Re: Donald McKenzie d 22 Jun 1890 perhaps Boularderie, Nova Scotia b abt 1820
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 April 14 19:07 BST (UK) »
If Donald married and died in Nova Scotia, or anywhere else in Canada or the U.S. his parent's names may not have been listed....
I don't think I posted this Donald McKenzie headed for the U.S.1862, born 1832 Cape Breton
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDR9-QP5
But that fellow may be accouinted for in these censuses ( 1900) and registrations for California citizens  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yud/

Some of the family were shipbuilders and boatsmen.  A merchant marine b1833 Canada...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCQV-CZM
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