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Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« on: Thursday 24 April 14 04:57 BST (UK) »
I am looking for children of Thomas and Hannah Parker. One child was Jemima born in 1814 in Hull, another child was Mary Ann born in 1821 in Hull. I cannot find any birth records for them or any other offspring. The parents spent the 1840's through 1860's in Lincolnshire around Humberston. Thomas died about 1860 in Humberston and Hannah about 1865 in East Halton. Jemima married William Barker in 1832 and Mary Ann married Thomas Mitchell  and immigrated to the United States living in Ohio. I have done all I know how to do.

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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 April 14 09:50 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat
Hope we can assist you

I cannot find a death reg for Thomas Parker in 1860 in Humberstone
There is a death reg Jun qtr 1859 - but according to burial record this Thomas Parker was age 35 when he died
There is a Thoimas and Hannah Parker on 1861 census in Humberstone

Could you post where you found information ??

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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 April 14 09:56 BST (UK) »
Is this Thomas & Hannah
1861
Humberstone Lincs
Thomas Parker Head M 75 ag lab Irby on HUmber Lincs
Hannah wife 74 Skeffling E Riding Yks
Elizabeth Brumpton Lodger U 47 Charwoman Humberstone Lincs
RG9 2390 7 8

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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 April 14 10:04 BST (UK) »
and
1851 Humberstone Lincs
Hannah Parker Head Married 66 Wife of ag lab Skeffling Yks
HO107 2113 6 4

#where was Thomas in 1851?
Wondered if he might be visiting aone of his children?
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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 April 14 11:21 BST (UK) »
Thomas died in 1863 (6th on the right) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=772744&iid=251558

There was a Hannah PARKER buried at Humberstone in 1865 (top left), although she appears to be too old ... does the burial date match with the date of death that you have? http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=772744&iid=251563

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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 April 14 15:36 BST (UK) »
Thank-you for your quick responses. I will try to fill in some details. My connection is through William Barker, Jemima's husband. All we know about Jemima's family came from a couple entries in William's diary written in 1879. He listed five family members that died in a short period of time. I had assumed  the listing was chronological and were in this order  Mother's father, Father's father, Father's sister(d 1864), Mother's mother(d 1865) and then Mother(d 1867). The last three we know the dates and they are in order. From the clue Mother's mother dying, a family member found the death certificate and found her Mother's mother was Hannah Parker,  dying Sept 15, 1865 in East Halton witnessed by a Barker family member.  Death certificate said 79 years old,  I believe the age  89 in  the parish records that  Geoff-E found, mentioned above, is off  by a decade. Death certificate said her husband was Thomas Parker. That will match with the census of 1861 giving approximate date  and location of birth of Thomas and Hannah both in the mid 1780's, and Thomas in Irby- Lincolnshire, Hannah in Skeffling Yorkshire . The other clue in the diary was Mother's father died previous to Hannah and had been living in Humberstone. Census of 1841 and 1851, and 1861 seemed to show they lived there a number of years.  Mother's father,Thomas Parker,  died in Humberstone in April of 1863, parish records provided by Geoff-E, mentioned above.   We do have father's father , Thomas Barker's death certificate,  showing he died July 31, 1861, in Caistor in the Caistor Union Workhouse.  So I guess William had the deaths of the two fathers in the wrong order. I also see in the diary that he mentions mother's mother,  Hannah Parker, living with them two years before she died which would match well if her husband Thomas Parker died in 1863 and she died in 1865. Hope this will make sense.
 I recently confirmed a connection with Mary Ann Parker Mitchell(b 1821) living in the United States Mercer County Ohio married to Thomas Mitchell to be Jemima's sister which was new news. The question still is did Jemima and Mary Ann have any siblings.  No idea of Hannah Parker's maiden name either. Thanks

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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 April 14 19:08 BST (UK) »
There's a possible marriage at Barrow on Humber 1813, just across the river from Hull (2nd on right) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=513757&iid=36581

Witnesses don't seem to be family though  :-\
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Re: Lincolnshire/Yorkshire Parker's
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 April 14 21:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for you time and help. This is certainly a possibility. Thomas and Hannah Parker gives you many options.There is a Thomas and Hannah beginning to have children with a Mary Ann born  in 1815  in Barrow on Humber. and there a few after that in Barrow. Jemima was born in Jan 1814 in Hull, which   agrees with the 1813 marriage, and with  later children of 1815, but still no record. Jemima's birth date is a family record but also matches very well with 51 and 61 census and death certificate.  Could be reasons Jemima was born in Hull too but other children born in Barrow.  Perhaps Hannah went to her mother's home to have  her first child.  There are other  Thomas and Hannah's having children in various locations. One in Ulceby I decided was not correct because there is a Thomas and Hannah on the 1841 census  with children in Ulceby, however the parent's ages weren't quite close enough to the Thomas and Hannah I was looking for. And I had found a census record for Thomas and Hannah in Humberstone in 1841.
Mary Ann Parker Mitchell in the US has on a marriage certificate for her daughter that she, the mother, was born in Hull. I have a Mary Parker being married in Humberstone church to Thomas Mitchell(father Joseph) in 1845 with her father being Thomas Parker. They immigrated a little later. Her gravestone does not say a birthdate but gives years months and days old so it is a calculated birthday. The same is done for her husband and it is almost exact to a birth record for a Thomas Mitchell born in Bonby, father is Joseph. The big reason I think Mary Ann is realated is that Thomas Mitchell in Mercer County Ohio is on a 1890's family address list with numerous other relatives. So if it is this Thomas and Hannah there are a few things that would have to be explained. You do great work.