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John and Robert Bailey
« on: Sunday 27 April 14 06:09 BST (UK) »
Need help to find what happened to the brothers.  Both appear on the Manningford Abbots transcripts list being baptised 1804 and 1806. Father Thomas mother Maria. Cannot find anymore. Their younger brothers migrated to South Australia and one of their sister's migrated to Victoria.  Perhaps they did to. On a census their appeared a John aged 2 but Maria was 55 so I think that may have been a grandchild.  Perhaps he belonged to John. Any help would be appreciated :)

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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 April 14 12:01 BST (UK) »
Possibles?

1851 Census
Wilsford, Wiltshire
HO107/1844/120/33
Robert BAILEY, 43 (1808), Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born MANNINGFORD, Wiltshire
Maria, 47, Wife
George, 22
Mary, 16
Sarah, 13
Eliza, 6
Ann, 7
Emma, 1
F/S has a Marriage to a Maria HOLLOWAY, 25 October 1828, Wilsford Near Pewsey,Wiltshire

1861 Robert is born c 1807, Manningford Bohun, Wiltshire

1851 has a JOHN Bailey born c 1804, Manningford, Wiltshire (down as Thoss, image is John)
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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 April 14 13:20 BST (UK) »
HelloTrish 1120
That could be a winner.  I have seen the Holloway name before and had to rule it out for Robert's father as he married a Maria.
The 1851 census with John (who was born 1804)  is he married or what? I am trying to figure out how
John could be translated to Thos. There is a Thomas born 1826 and he came out to SOuth Australia
on the Blundell 1856. aged 29. He was single. So now it is only John that I have to try and verify.
And if Thomas did not come out until 1856 where is he in 1851? Mystery deepens
Thanks :D

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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 April 14 13:24 BST (UK) »
Yes, John is Married, if you need Census details please ask. I am going off-line soon so can type them up tomorrow if you need them.

Re John/Thoss, handwriting is bad so the transcriber has just made a mistake.

Trish :)
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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 April 14 13:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish I would like them but no hurry.  I also am going off line soon.  Thanks for your help.It is great. :)

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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 April 14 09:30 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Upavon, Wiltshire
HO107/1186/10/Upavpn
John Bailey, 35, Ag Lab
Anne, 35
Emma, 15
John, 11
Louisa, 8
Thomas, 6
James, 3
Hannah, 2mths
All born in County

1851 Census
Upavon, Wiltshire
HO107/1844/74/7
John BAILEY, 47, Head, Mar, born Manningford
Ann, 44, Wife, Mar, born Upavon
Emma, 23, Daug, Unm
John, 20, Son, Unm, Ag Lab
Louisa, 18, Daug, Unm
Thomas, 16, Son, Unm, Ag Lab
Hannah, 1yr, 10mths, Daug
Alfred J, 9mths, Grandson
All born Upavon except John nr

1861 Census
Woodford, Wiltshire
RG9/1311/108/21
John BAILY, 56, Head, Mar, born Manningford Abbotts
Ann, 53, Wife, Mar, born Uphavon
Emma, 33, Daug, Unm, born Uphavon
Stephen, 17, Son, Unm, Shepherd, born Uphavon
Alfred John, 10, Visitor, Scholar, born Uphavon
Kate, 8, Visitor, Scholar, born Uphavon

1871 Census
Woodford, Wiltshire
RG10/1945/45/1
John BAILEY, 67, Head, Mar, Fram Lab, born Manningford
Ann, 64, Wife, Mar, born Upavon
Alfred John, 20, Grandson, Unm, Farm Lab, born Upavon
Jane, 7, Grand/Daug, born Woodford

STEPHEN Bailey ;
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    24 Dec 1843
Christening Place:    Upavon, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name:    John Bailey
Mother's name:    Ann

Cant find Stephen in 1851 as he is not with his Parents on that Census.

F/S has a John BAILEY/Ann DAVIS Marriage 1826 Upavon
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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 April 14 09:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much Trish 1120.  I appreciate all the work you have done. :)

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 April 14 10:03 BST (UK) »
Your welcome :)
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Re: John and Robert Bailey
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 May 16 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hello, This is the very beginning of my searches, and my first post, so apologies in advance... There is a degree of uncertainty about everything, of course, but I think I have a trace back to John Bailey, born 1804 in Manningford, Wiltshire, UK. He married Ann who was born 1807.

I am interested in those that went before him. It appears that you might be able to guide me, so I would be grateful for any help you could provide.

I have reasonable details of the line that came down from his son James, born 1838, who married Alice Sainsbury in 1861.

Thanks