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Offline plimmerian

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a missing Yorkshire boy
« on: Wednesday 04 June 14 15:17 BST (UK) »
seek James Clifford Walmsley born about 1844 in Sheffield son of Thomas Walmsley

- have found him from his marriage in 1867 in Bradford district of Manchester, Lancashire until his death in 1914 in Clayton district of Manchester, Lancashire

- the 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 census all stating he was born in Sheffield, Yorkshire

any help welcome - thank you   :-\

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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 16:19 BST (UK) »
Yes he is elusive prior to marriage isn't he  :-\

I wonder if he got his birthplace wrong.  There are more Walmsley names in Lancashire but I can't find one with father Thomas an iron foundry worker.
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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 18:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
Just a thought, Clayton is a suburb of Bradford, YORKSHIRE, have you been looking in the wrong area ?

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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 19:00 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dave the tyke on Wednesday 04 June 14 18:47 BST (UK)
Hi
Just a thought, Clayton is a suburb of Bradford, YORKSHIRE, have you been looking in the wrong area ?

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That's a very good point.

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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 19:13 BST (UK) »
His 1914 death was registered in Prestwich district (Lancs).  LancsBMD shows it in Great Harwood subdistrict.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 19:37 BST (UK) »
There doesn't seem to be a birth registration for a James Walmsley around 1844 (ish) in the Sheffield area.

I wonder if he was illegitimate - and his surname was Clifford? There is a James Clifford born in Chorlton, Manchester in 1844 --- and strangely -- if you look at Genuki for details of Bradford (Manchester) -- it is adjacent to the Sheffield - Manchester Railway!

It's pie in the sky I know-- but maybe his mother took up with a Thomas Walmsley before James married -- just a thought!
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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 23:05 BST (UK) »
A possibility?

July - September 1846
James Clifford Angell
Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
Vol 22
Page 174

Ecclesfield is about 4.5 miles North of Sheffield City Centre
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 23:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Jomot on Wednesday 04 June 14 23:05 BST (UK)
A possibility?

July - September 1846
James Clifford Angell
Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
Vol 22
Page 174

Ecclesfield is about 4.5 miles North of Sheffield City Centre
Hi, here is the Baptist Record for this chap

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NTHX-S5X

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Re: a missing Yorkshire boy
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 June 14 23:40 BST (UK) »
No sign of a father in the 1851 census - just Catherine and 5 children, although she appears to be registered as married. 

By 1861 James and two of his brothers are in Derbyshire - no sign of Catherine but other family members have appeared.

Cant find him yet in 1871.......
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.
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