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Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« on: Thursday 05 June 14 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have the following family on census from 1841, 1851, 1861, 1881

Mary Calvert 1814 bDenholme, Yorkshire
Children all born Denholme -
George Calvert 1835
Warton 1836
William 1847
Sarah Ann 1850
Susannah 1853



She marries James calvert in 1833 she is not widwed till 1881census.

1841 and 1851 she lives with her father John and her children.

My question is where is her husband James on all the cenusus returns?

Also i can't find this family on the 1871.

help please!

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Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:20 BST (UK) »
1871 Transcribed as Calbert?  All  born Thorton and living at the County Bridge, Thornton.  Mary listed as a widow

Mary Calbert 57      
William 24       
Sarah 21      
Susannah    17
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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much!

I am confused as to when her husband died because the 1851 says widow but then the 1861 says married! The youngest child was born 1853.

If he had died before 1851 then it's only the 1841 cenusu he's missing from?

Confused!

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Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:31 BST (UK) »
Beat me to it!

There could be many reasons why the husband isnt show - seperated/in the army/in prison/working away

My great grandmother never appears on any census with her husband because they seperated and I had another relative whos husband never appeared but she kindly noted on the one census that he was 'working on the railway in India' (he died there too)

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:35 BST (UK) »
Do you have a birth or marriage certificate for any of the children which shows their father's occupation?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Yes, James' occupation is given as weaver on his son George's marriage cert from 1861, it doesn't state that James is deceased.

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Armitage, Slaithwaite, huddersfield.
Calvert, Thornton, Bradford.
Pickles, Thornton, Bradford.
Rawlings, Somerset.
Clay, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield.
Clayton, Preston, Lanc's
Croston, Preston, Lanc's
Crossley, Preston, Lanc's
Jackson, Preston, Lanc's
Woods poss Preston
Moses, Monmouthshire
Foster, Thornton, Bradford.
gallop, Chew Stoke, Somerset
Shaw, Halifax
Holdsworth, Bingley/Keighley

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:44 BST (UK) »
George Calvert marriage:

9th September 1861, Bradford St Peter

George, 26, labourer. Father: James Calvert, weaver
Margaret Atkinson, 18.
Both lived in Denholm

Witnesses: William Holmes and Christopher Gibson

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:46 BST (UK) »
There is a big gap* between sons Warton 1836 and William 1847.  I wonder whether there was a marriage breakdown sometime after the birth of Warton (as you say, James is not seen with the family in 1841) and the later children were fathered by someone else?

*Of course there is a possibility that there were other children born between these two but who did not survive to a census date - do the parish records help out on this?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Husband missing from every census return - where is he?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 June 14 11:53 BST (UK) »
Susannah Calvert possible marriage:

23rd December 1882 Bradford St Peter

Susannah Calvert,age 28, spinster. Denholme. No father mentioned.
James Cook, 30. Father; John Cook

Witnesses: Ann Cooper and ? Pickles
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