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Crow and Bridge
« on: Friday 16 July 04 07:22 BST (UK) »
Is anyone doing the Crow or Bridge family?
I have a John Crow b abt 1855 in Cranham, Essex, I have him back to the 1881 census, but don't know who his parents were.  His children were born in West Thurrock.
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I have a Walter Bridge b abt 1856, I don't know where, only that it was Essex or who his parents are.  I have him back to the 1901 census.  He married in London in 1892, and at least one of his children were born in Ashingdon, Rayleigh, Rochford.
Sue
Bell - London, Dorset & Somerset
Bridge, Crow, Fewell, Prior - Essex
Cane - London & Portsmouth
Hunter - London
McLeod - Scotland, Helmsdale & Wick

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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 July 04 14:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   There is a Walter Bridges born 1855 in Epping, and a Walter Bridge in 1860 in Barking.
  As reagards John Crow, these are some possibilities
Upminster 1845
Mountnessing - 1857

I am sure there are more occurrences that are possible.
Best
Kevan
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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 July 04 07:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kevan, will look further and try and find out about the ones you mention.
Sue
Bell - London, Dorset & Somerset
Bridge, Crow, Fewell, Prior - Essex
Cane - London & Portsmouth
Hunter - London
McLeod - Scotland, Helmsdale & Wick

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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 September 05 11:59 BST (UK) »
Is anyone doing the Crow or Bridge family?
I have a John Crow b abt 1855 in Cranham, Essex, I have him back to the 1881 census, but don't know who his parents were.  His children were born in West Thurrock.
and
I have a Walter Bridge b abt 1856, I don't know where, only that it was Essex or who his parents are.  I have him back to the 1901 census.  He married in London in 1892, and at least one of his children were born in Ashingdon, Rayleigh, Rochford.
Sue

Hi Sue,

I am researching my Bridge folk in Essex. I've found 4 cousins since I started & we're all researching our ancestors from around Bradwell, Tillingham and West Ham and further afield. Do you know who your Walter married and any names of their children? that might help us find him as we've combined our branches into one tree & I don't have the latest copy but I could ask around. I'm sure there may be some strays amongst ours if yours isn't related.

I've just found this on http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Births Jun 1857
Bridge    Walter        Rochford    4a   167

Looking forward to your reply.

Kind regards,
Candy
ANDERSON, BRIDGE, LILLEY, LINNETT, POTTER, QUERRY, SKINGSLEY, TAYLOR, WES(T)LEY :ESS
BLINCO, HOWELL, PRUE, HICKMAN :WAR
BRIDGE, BEARD, CORP, KEECH, JONES, FRY, WHITAKER, MAYHEW, REE :LDN/MDX
BURGESS, CARPENTER, CATER, DIVER, JARVIS, JONES,  :CAM
FRY, HOLE, MONGER, MATCHWICK, NASH, WELLS :SRY
ASHBY, CHADBAND, KEECH, OLIVER, SHELSTON :NTH
BEALE, HAWKINS, MORGAN, PEARCE, SMITH, TULL, WILD :HAM
BEARD, CARTER, MALPASS/MALPUS, WORKMAN :GLS
CLARK, DRAPER, HANSLOW, LAWLEY, REE, WINWOOD :SAL
THUSTIN :BKM


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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 September 05 19:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Candy
It's a while since I put that message on, I have a little bit more info now, but not much. First of all thank you for that birth entry, I am sure it's the right one.
Walter Bridge m Charlotte Rayner in 1892 St John's Church Walworth (Not sure why Walworth, London when they were both from Essex) This is where it gets confusing, the children are: Mabel, Alice, Walter, Louisa, Annie, Florence, Elizabeth & William for definate and a possible Sidney & Charlotte, although these were names my late aunt gave me and I don't now think they are right, except that my aunt said she new Sidney well, so I am wondering if it was a nick name, or his second name.  The odd thing is Mabel, Alice, Walter & Louisa were all born before the marriage, but I have Louisa's birth cert and her mother is definatley Charlotte, but maybe the others are from a previous wife.
I have Walter now on the 1861, 1871 and then not again till the 1901, so until I can find him on 1881 & 1891 I can't be sure about all the children and if he was married before.
Walter's parents were James and Eleanor, I think, this fits in with the Rochford birth.  There was also another Walter born about the same time at Hawkwell, but all the census I have he says he was born in Rochford.
I do know that Walter,  junior, went to Australia when he was 16 and had two children Walter and Linda, but I don't know his wifes name.  One of the daughters wrote to my aunt and told her that her mother had died.
Well that's about it for now, does any of this fit.  Hope it does.
Sue
Bell - London, Dorset & Somerset
Bridge, Crow, Fewell, Prior - Essex
Cane - London & Portsmouth
Hunter - London
McLeod - Scotland, Helmsdale & Wick

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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 September 05 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,
Yes I noticed the date of your post was last year but I still wanted to touch base and see if I could help!
People moved around in those days, more than we thought they would! :)
Our George Bridge was born in Essex but also married near London. It had a lot to do with his girlfriend being born in Marylebone also he worked on the railways that lead to him working/living in London. Also I was told they often married in the parish where the bride came from. Sot that might explain Walworth  ???
Just out of curiousity do you know where Walter came to in Australia?
Where are you? I'm in NSW, Australia. Do you have the marriage certificate of Walter & Charlotte? That shuld give his birth place, hopefully!
I haven't found him amongst my info... but we will work on it! Someone else on rootschat might have some ideas too.

Regards,
Candy
ANDERSON, BRIDGE, LILLEY, LINNETT, POTTER, QUERRY, SKINGSLEY, TAYLOR, WES(T)LEY :ESS
BLINCO, HOWELL, PRUE, HICKMAN :WAR
BRIDGE, BEARD, CORP, KEECH, JONES, FRY, WHITAKER, MAYHEW, REE :LDN/MDX
BURGESS, CARPENTER, CATER, DIVER, JARVIS, JONES,  :CAM
FRY, HOLE, MONGER, MATCHWICK, NASH, WELLS :SRY
ASHBY, CHADBAND, KEECH, OLIVER, SHELSTON :NTH
BEALE, HAWKINS, MORGAN, PEARCE, SMITH, TULL, WILD :HAM
BEARD, CARTER, MALPASS/MALPUS, WORKMAN :GLS
CLARK, DRAPER, HANSLOW, LAWLEY, REE, WINWOOD :SAL
THUSTIN :BKM

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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 September 05 09:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Candy
I have now found Walter & Charlotte on the 1891 and they are together then, so I think they just never got round to marrying to late.  Still havn't as yet found them on the 1881.  I have Walter and Charlottes marriage cert but our marriage certs don't say where people were born.
I don't know where Walter Bridge (junior) went to in australia, he was born around 1900, so it would have been around 1916 that he went.
I am in the North of England now, but I was born in London.
Sue
Bell - London, Dorset & Somerset
Bridge, Crow, Fewell, Prior - Essex
Cane - London & Portsmouth
Hunter - London
McLeod - Scotland, Helmsdale & Wick

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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 September 05 10:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,
Yes, sorry you are right, I should have remembered that from the certificates we've got from Blighty. Can you give me their address from the 1891 census and from their marriage certificate? So I can ask around my contacts.
I forgot to tell you last message that they weren't the only ones that didn't get around to marrying until late. I've got a Bridge ancestor who didn't marry the mother of his children until just before he died. Some of the children had his surname and others had her surname; some switched between the two. And I don't think it's just unique to the Bridge folk either! Bet it happened in lots of families.
Ok, as you have Walter on the 1861 census hopefully it will give you his parents names. Also as you are in the UK perhaps you can request a verfication from the records office for this Walter:-

Births Jun 1857
Bridge    Walter        Rochford    4a   167

tell them you request a verfication that the parents names match those on the 1861 census, as far as I know you don't have to pay for the certificate if the details don't match. If it doesn't match you only have to pay about 3 quid. I can't guarantee that you found the right one on the 1861 census, so I can't guarantee a match with the certificate. But it sounds like you are on the right track, and for 3 quid it's worth checking before you purchase the certificate.

I was born in Sydney, Mum was born at Chalk Farm, London. We lived in Whitby for a couple of years & briefly at Gosport & Fareham. England's my other home! Can't wait to go back again.  ;D ;D

Cheers,
Candy
ANDERSON, BRIDGE, LILLEY, LINNETT, POTTER, QUERRY, SKINGSLEY, TAYLOR, WES(T)LEY :ESS
BLINCO, HOWELL, PRUE, HICKMAN :WAR
BRIDGE, BEARD, CORP, KEECH, JONES, FRY, WHITAKER, MAYHEW, REE :LDN/MDX
BURGESS, CARPENTER, CATER, DIVER, JARVIS, JONES,  :CAM
FRY, HOLE, MONGER, MATCHWICK, NASH, WELLS :SRY
ASHBY, CHADBAND, KEECH, OLIVER, SHELSTON :NTH
BEALE, HAWKINS, MORGAN, PEARCE, SMITH, TULL, WILD :HAM
BEARD, CARTER, MALPASS/MALPUS, WORKMAN :GLS
CLARK, DRAPER, HANSLOW, LAWLEY, REE, WINWOOD :SAL
THUSTIN :BKM

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Re: Crow and Bridge
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 January 15 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Susie,
This is my first time on Rootschat, and my first 'reply'. Hopefully I get it right. I was very interested in your discussion on the Bridge family and so I decided to join.  :)
I am keen to find out who Walter Bridge's (b1856) parents are too.
I have the same children listed.
Daughter - Florence May married Thomas Grigg in 1918. They had 4 children. William (1918), Cyril (1922), Rosina (1927) and Kay (1929). William was my grandfather.
Happy to help look or discuss this family further...
Regards, Gillian
Grigg - Essex, England
Thorrington
Bridge - England
O'Donnell - Ireland
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Wood
Quick - Cornwall
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Stevens - Devon
Deville
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