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My LEE Ancestry.England
« on: Tuesday 24 June 14 02:35 BST (UK) »
I thought I had my family tree accurately sorted out, but now I`m not too sure. Not being able to obtain Birth & Marriage certificates prior to 1831 is part of the problem, and I have real problem finding and understanding Parish Records/English counties etc.
So I`d appreciate a little help/advice.
I`ll start with what I know and work back.
My Grandfather  (according to my late father), was William Lee, Born Dec 1 1874 in Shropshire, and his father was James Lee b 1837 in Little Sutton, Cheshire, and his wife’s name was Ann Lee (Maiden name Lee). I ordered their marriage certificate and  found it strange that they married in Lincolnshire, but she may have been born in Lincolnshire which could explain it.
 Their Marriage certificate  shows James`s father as Peter Lee, but no mothers name, but the 1841 census for the family gives her name as Elizabeth Here is where the doubt creeps in.
Through researching I determined that Elizabeth`s maiden name was Jones b 1814 in Cheshire,
Assuming that was correct I  discovered that Peter`s father was James Lee, b Oct 9 1776 , married to  Elizabeth Humphries,b1777, and that is as far back as I have gone at this stage.
My assumption was that most if not all had been born in Cheshire, but after discovering that James and Ann had married in Lincolnshire, and my Grandfather William had been born in Shropshire, I then discovered other James & Peter Lee`s in those areas with wives of similar names. And that is why I`m questioning my research. And of course I cannot purchase BMD records that go back into the 1700`s.
 Any help /advice on where I should research next would be appreciated. Hopefully I haven`t confused everybody!
David Lee
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:05 BST (UK) »

I`ll start with what I know and work back.
My Grandfather  (according to my late father), was William Lee, Born Dec 1 1874 in Shropshire, and his father was James Lee b 1837 in Little Sutton, Cheshire, and his wife’s name was Ann Lee (Maiden name Lee). I ordered their marriage certificate and  found it strange that they married in Lincolnshire, but she may have been born in Lincolnshire which could explain it.
 

So we can see who we are looking at and going from details you have here this is the family in 1881  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3JG-M82?cc=1321821
James Lee    44
Ann Lee 40
James Henry Lee 15
Thomas Lee 13
Elizabeth Catherine Lee 10
Sarah Jane Lee   8
William Lee 6 bn Shrewsbury
Robert Lee 3

Both James & Ann have their birthplace as Little Sutton, Cheshire

Where does the information that Ann's maiden name was Lee come from
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:18 BST (UK) »
The family in 1891, Tranmere, Cheshire  - RG12 /2888 f90 p6
James Lee    Married 55 bn Little Sutton
Esther Lee Dtr 22 bn Shrewsbury
William Lee Son 16 bn Shrewsbury
Robert Lee Son 14 bn Shrewsbury
George Lee Son 7 bn Seacombe, Cheshire

Same address
James H Lee 25 bn Birkenhead
Margaret Lee 21 bn Birkenhead


And in 1871 Shrewsbury - RG10/2770 f45 p18
James Lee    34 bn Eastham, Cheshire
Ann Lee 30 bn Eastham, Cheshire
Peter Lee 13 bn Eastham, Cheshire
James Hy Lee 5 bn Birkenhead
Thomas Lee 3 bn Birkenhead
Elizabeth E Lee   9 Months bn Shrewsbury  (Presumably this is Esther)

1861 RG9/2641 f44 p21
James Lee 24 bn Sutton, Cheshire
Ann Lee 21 bn Sutton, Cheshire
Peter Lee 3 bn Sutton, Cheshire
Esther Lee 1 bn Birkenhead

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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:28 BST (UK) »
his father was James Lee b 1837 in Little Sutton, Cheshire, and his wife’s name was Ann Lee (Maiden name Lee). I ordered their marriage certificate and  found it strange that they married in Lincolnshire, but she may have been born in Lincolnshire which could explain it.
 Their Marriage certificate  shows James`s father as Peter Lee, but no mothers name,

UK marriage certificates do not give mothers details.
Where and when did this marriage take place
The marriage is in Liverpool not Lincolnshire  :)
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:44 BST (UK) »
The marriage was in Liverpool not Lincolnshire  ;D

27 December 1851 1857 at St Nicholas Church.  It would appear that James sister Elizabeth married the same day.

James father was as you said Peter occupation Porter
Ann's father was William Lee occ Gamekeeper
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:48 BST (UK) »
I think you mean 1857 :)
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:53 BST (UK) »
I think you mean 1857 :)

You are right Trish, I will alter it.   ;D
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 06:58 BST (UK) »
This looks like James christening with mother Elizabeth
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3LG-1TL

04 Sep 1836
Eastham, Cheshire
Father Peter Lee
Mother Elizabeth

and some possible siblings
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Re: My LEE Ancestry.England
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 07:07 BST (UK) »
1851 census H0107/2173 f   188 p14
Peter Lee   38 bn Woodchurch, Cheshire
Elizabath Lee 37 bn Stoke, Cheshire
Children all born Little Sutton
Ann 15
James 14
Elizabath 13
John 7
William 6
Peter 5
Robert 3
Rachel 1
Charles 4 Mths

1841 Little Sutton - All born in County
Peter Lee   28 occupation Constable
Elizabeth Lee   25
Ann Lee   5
James Lee   4
Elizabeth Lee   3
Peter Lee   1
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