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New eyes needed
« on: Friday 25 July 14 14:36 BST (UK) »
l have been researching my family trees for some years but recently at last retired and thought l would try and finish them by filling in the gaps and brick walls and l have hit a big one but think l need a new set of eyes as l seem to be going round and round the problem is this.
Francis Trout b 1842 clist st george Devon to Francis Trout and Jane Thomas.
Have him on 1851 census with family.
think may be him on Dorset Prison Admission.1861
1861 census on board a ship.
1861 marriage to Mary Jane Gale (widow) maiden name Spurrell.
have Mary Jane Gale on 1861 census with mother and her 2 children George J age 4 and Sara A age 2.
but then nothing cannot find any one of them on any record.
have tried the children under Gale and Trout .
Where are they all.
Can any one help.
All records in Devon.
Thankyou
Sandra.

Travi
Clark London/Hertfordshire
Dilley London
Trout Devon
Wickert london/Germany
Rowe Devon/London

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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 14 14:46 BST (UK) »
Someone else searching for Trouts in Clyst:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=157233.msg734260#msg734260
Not your family, but you may be related somewhere along the line.  :)

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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 14 14:51 BST (UK) »
Just to put the info on to the thread, to save us all looking it up, here is the 1861 census -

Devonport, Devon
Jane Spurrels 42 widow Charwoman bn Plymouth
Mary J Gale 21 dtr widow bn Devonport
George J Gale 4 grandson bn Devonport
Sarah A Gale 2 granddtr bn Devonport
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 14 14:52 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage for a Mary Jane Gale  Trout in Jul-Aug-Sep 1862 Totnes
5B 34

added name corrected


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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 14 14:56 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Francis-

Jul/Aug/Sep 1889
Newton Abbot
Ref 5b 94
Francis Trout
age 47


Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 July 14 15:03 BST (UK) »
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There is a marriage for a Mary Jane Gale in Jul-Aug-Sep 1862 Totnes
5B 341
Does say Mary Jane Trout.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 July 14 15:11 BST (UK) »
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There is a marriage for a Mary Jane Gale in Jul-Aug-Sep 1862 Totnes
5B 341
Does say Mary Jane Trout.

Looking at the original it is Prout

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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 July 14 15:16 BST (UK) »
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Looking at the original it is Prout
Agree.
There's this marriage:

Dec 1868
Trout  Mary Jane     Stoke D  5b 615
On the same page:

CRAGO  Richard    Stoke D.  5b 615
Gibson  Arthur     Stoke D  5b 615 
Thomas  Maria     Stoke D  5b 615
Richard Crago appears to have married Maria Thomas (1871 census) 
Can't see Mary Jane with Arthur Gibson yet.

I think this is Mary Jane Gibson in 1881:
RG11; Piece: 79; Folio: 76; Page: 32
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: New eyes needed
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 July 14 15:23 BST (UK) »
The 1889 death found by Liz for Francis Trout fits well age wise. I can't see hide nor hair of Francis in 1881. As he was a seaman in 1861 it is possible he was away at sea in 71 and 81.  :-\