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Smart Family
« on: Friday 25 July 14 16:23 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for information on the family of Thomas William Smart.   He was born about 1853 in Bath, Somerset.   He married Phillis Milliner in 1879 in Cold Ashton, Gloucestershire.   She was baptised in Cold Ashton 27 Sep 1856.   I believe they emigrated to the USA in 1884 with their 3 daughters - Ella Rose born Swainswick, Somerset 1880, Annie born Charlcombe, Somerset 1882 and Emma born Cold Ashton, Gloucestershire 1883.

Any information on their Atlantic crossing and subsequent life in USA greatly appreciated.

Dave
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   Research:   Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.   Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire.  Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall.   Foster in Liverpoo.l   Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire.  Mawby, Popple in Rutland.   Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset.   Willis in Oxfordshire.   Fishlock, Snell, Fry, in Wiltshire

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 14 16:28 BST (UK) »
The US censuses are available on FS    http://www.rootschat.com/links/0191m/

Here's the 1900 entry

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MS1R-CQJ
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:16 BST (UK) »
That's great CaroleW, do you know the best way to access passenger lists?   The family lived in Gloucestershire so I guess Bristol would have been the nearest port.
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   Research:   Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.   Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire.  Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall.   Foster in Liverpoo.l   Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire.  Mawby, Popple in Rutland.   Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset.   Willis in Oxfordshire.   Fishlock, Snell, Fry, in Wiltshire

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:21 BST (UK) »
Thomas died 1905:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XZWH-H7W
Annie married 1903:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VF9L-HHW

freebmd shows that Ella Rose Smart was b. 1880 but died 1881, so she won't be found travelling with the family.  A immigration record isn't immediately apparent for them - but they could have come through one of several US ports or via Canada, and Thomas may have gone ahead of the rest, so not always that easy to spot families on shipping lists in this time period.  I would not assume they went from their nearest port, or that they arrived at the one closest to their eventual residence in the US.

Shipping lists can be found at various places including familysearch, various archive sites, and pay sites.
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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 14 17:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks jorose.   I appreciate that there are an infinite number of variables and permutations particularly at the end of the 19th century.   I'll follow your hints and try and track them down  :)

Dave
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   Research:   Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.   Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire.  Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall.   Foster in Liverpoo.l   Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire.  Mawby, Popple in Rutland.   Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset.   Willis in Oxfordshire.   Fishlock, Snell, Fry, in Wiltshire

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 July 14 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,

Just in case you don't have this, gravestone for both Thomas and Phyllis

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=SMA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=40&GScntry=4&GSsr=2601&GRid=27582860&

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 July 14 23:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,

WW2 Draft Registration Card 1942 for son Abraham Lincoln Smart,

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-134734-75?cc=1861144

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 July 14 00:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,

U.S. Social Security Death Index

Abraham Smart
SSN 176-14-2377
Last residence: 15238 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA
Born: 2 Feb. 1882
Died: July 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (before 1951)

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Re: Smart Family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 July 14 00:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,

WW2 Draft Registration for son Levi (seems to go by Lee) Smart

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12394-133136-61?cc=1861144

Find a grave for Levi (Lee)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=smart&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=40&GScnty=2242&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GSsr=1&GRid=31606174&df=all&
An error ..lists death 1864....should be 1964 re gravestone.

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DB
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