Cleminson

[ianwade100]

Hi there

I have a wedding cert for isabel Cleminson married James McKenzie.
Father William Cleminson Occ brick maker. Think he lived at black boys backyard at some point


1911 census states see was born 1870 castle Eden.

Would love some help trying to find her mother and father etc as have hit a brick wall.

Kind regards

Ian wade

[keyboard86]

Hi their is this family in 1871:-

William Cleminson 27 occ Lab Colliery b West Aukland
Mary 23 b Tanfield
Thomas 3 b West Auckland
Isabella 10 months b Bishop Auckland
Residing at Private House, Village, Black Boy Brick Yard

Census Ref RG10/4925/40/16

Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi is this Isabel/Isabella in 1891:-

Simon McKenzie 17 occ Sailor (Sea) b Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Bella Cleminson 22 occ Housekeeper b Sunderland
Jessie 1 b Sunderland
Residing with a Cuthbert family ( Simon shown as son, and also as Cuthbert on another site)? at Offerton Street, Bishop Wearmouth
Census Ref RG12/4128/33/58

Their is an 11 year old Jessie McKenzie with James & Isabella in 1901?
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, just putting some notes together, but I think William marries at least twice:-

William Cleminson to Mary Robinson Dec qtr 1867 Auckland 10a 219
Death Mary Cleminson March qtr 1876 Easington 10a 248 aged 28
Marriage possible William Cleminson to Elizabeth Proctor Dec qtr 1877 Auckland 10a 28

1881 Eliza and family on RG11/4952/57/18 really would like to locate birth/previous census for the Ann E Cleminson b c 1865/6 same pob as Eliza eg Yorkshire?

1891

Thomas Cleminson 24
Joseph 16 Brother
Mary A Robinson 66 Widow/Grandmother b Easington Lane
RG12/4196/83/27

Keyboard86

[shirl100]

Hi

From familysearch this looks like Isabella's baptism, the film number suggests it's a non conformist one (Methodist)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NY61-2KM

From parish records extracts again on familysearch, this is William and Mary's marriage in 1867 showing both fathers names

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNVC-NH4

Shirl

[ianwade100]

Thanks shirl :)
Keyboard jessie is the daughter of James and Isabella also a Christina Bainbridge McKenzie who is my great grandmother. A bit confused about the Bella Cleminson with Simon McKenzie in 1891.
Many thanks
Ian

[keyboard86]

Thanks shirl
Keyboard jessie is the daughter of James and Isabella also a Christina Bainbridge McKenzie who is my great grandmother. A bit confused about the Bella Cleminson with Simon McKenzie in 1891.
Many thanks
Ian

Hi Ian, have you located a birth on Freebmd for a Jessie Mckenzie? also a coincidence a Bella/Isabella Cleminson with a 1 year old Jessie plus with a Simon Mckenzie b Glasgow, have you another thread re Mckenzie with Simon on it?

Keyboard86

PS marriage Isabella Cleminson to James Mckenzie was in June qtr 1892 Sunderland?

[shirl100]

In 1881 Simon McKenzie appears to be in Partick, Lanarkshire

Jessie McKenzie head, married age 33, b Lochgoilhead, Argyleshire
James son age 12, b Glasgow
Simon son age 7, b Glasgow
Maggie daughter age 0, b Partick
Jessie daughter age 0, b Partick

So if Simon McKenzie and James were brothers, is it this James who married Isabella? If so it might sort of explain Simon's presence in the 1891 census at the same residence as Bella.  Bella and Jessie are shown as Cleminson although Jessie's birth seems to have been registered as McKenzie in 1889 - have you got the birth cert. to confirm the father was James?

James McKenzie & Isabella married in 1892 (freebmd) so that explains why Bella was shown as Cleminson on the 1891 census.

Shirl

[ianwade100]

Thanks again shirl I'm really confused now lol.
Keyboard I have a thread called McKenzie. Was looking for donald who is James Goodwin McKenzies father.born isle of Wight.  Cant remenber what board iow is posted under now?? I know Donald mmarried a Margaret mcgillivray in inverness. Back to Jessie i don't have a registered birth only details from census.