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Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« on: Friday 08 August 14 20:52 BST (UK) »
Hello

John Steel was born in 1821 in Stapleton to Jonathan and Margaret Steel

He is found in the 1861 census living in West Derby with his wife and children. His wife is named Elizabeth and his children are Robert, Margaret and Mary

However in the 1871 census, his wife is listed as Charlotte and a daughter named Charlotte in the 1861 census is gone

I cannot seem to find the family in any later censuses, could someone please help clear the confusion? Was the wife Charlotte or Elizabeth?

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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 August 14 21:18 BST (UK) »
Hi, The 1861 RG09/2733/55/51 has a child Sarah not Mary in addition to Robert, Charlotte & Margaret, John is a Joiner

1851 Census

John Steel 28 occ Wheelwright b Stapleton
Charlotte 26 b Carlisle
Robert 3 b Carlisle
Sarah 1 b Castle Sowerby
Residing at Stonefield Cottage
Census Ref HO107/2426/281/12

Charlotte on the 1861 could simply be elswhere working as a Servant by 1871?

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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 August 14 21:36 BST (UK) »
I have double checked and I think his wife was Charlotte, she is in the 1851, 1871 and 1881 census before dying in 1888 in West Derby.

I don't know why she is named as Elizabeth in the 1861 census.

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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 August 14 21:41 BST (UK) »
I can't find a marriage that fits, but this looks like Robert's birth. That would give his mother's name and maiden name

Births Mar 1848   
Steel    Robert        Carlisle    25   52

Added: this looks like it from FamilySearch - mother Charlotte

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NB3T-651
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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 August 14 22:13 BST (UK) »
That looks like her, when did they marry?

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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 August 14 22:19 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sirsimon on Friday 08 August 14 22:13 BST (UK)
That looks like her, when did they marry?

Possibly Sept qtr 1846 Carlisle v25 page 33 one to many men to ladies?


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PS possibly not as FindMyPast suggest he should be with others on v25 page 35
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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 August 14 08:50 BST (UK) »
Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days alive.

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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 August 14 13:51 BST (UK) »
Clara? So not Charlotte?

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Re: Confusion over name of Wife John Steel 1821 Stapleton
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 August 14 14:59 BST (UK) »
I didn't say it was your John STEEL ... I meant it was the John STEEL  who was mentioned as marrying Q3 1846 in Carlisle.
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