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Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« on: Sunday 31 August 14 00:46 BST (UK) »
I bought a bible in the seventy's. this was when I was in Germany. On the death page lists three sons that died in Tchi Turkey, and a daughter that died in Condorant. All died in 1800 hundreds. Same with Mary. Does anyone have any information about this family. I think this must have been a military family. Thank You. 

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 August 14 03:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Robstr1108

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

It would be wonderful to be able to trace the people from the bible!

Were the names of the sons & daughter noted? Or anything else?

Condorant - any idea where that is?   There is a Condorrat in Dunmbartonshire, Scotland

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 August 14 03:21 BST (UK) »
Mmmm..... name is WATSON - probably just one of those con-incidences!

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYC7-8D9
Mary WATSON
Born 31 Aug 1836
Chr 25 Sep 1836, Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Father: William WATSON
Mother Agnes WALKER

WATSON is her maiden name.....WALKER her mother's MS.

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 August 14 03:38 BST (UK) »
Oooh - I think it is her!

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Census 1841: Condorat, Cumbernauld, Dumbartonshire
Ref: Parish 495, ED 1, Folio 495, Page 31
Will'm WATSON 25, Hand Loom Weaver - Y
Agnes WATSON 25, - Y
Elizabeth WATSON 20, - Y
Mary WATSON - 4 - Y
Will'm WATSON 2, - Y
James WATSON 6mths - Y     

Family Search  have the following children listed as born to William WATSON & Agnes WALKER in Cumbernauld (note the daughter Agnes in 1855, the 'jewel' year for Scotland BDM):
John 1834
Mary 1836
William 1838
James Walker 1840
Matthew 1845
Agnes 1855

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 August 14 04:07 BST (UK) »
1851: Condorrat, Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Ref: Parish 495, ED1, Folio 0, Page 19, HS 73
Head: William WATSON 38, Hand Loom Weaver Cotton,
Wife: Agnes WATSON 34, Cotton Winder
Dau: Mary WATSON 14, Hand Loom Weaver Cotton
Son: William WATSON 12, Hand Loom Weaver Cotton
Son: James WATSON 10, Scholar,
Son: Matthew WATSON 5, Scholar
Son: John WATSON 4, At Home
Son: Isabella WATSON 9mths, At Home
ALL born Cumbernauld

1861: Airdrie Road, (Condorrat) Cumbernauld,
Head: William WATSON 48, Cotton Weaver
Wife: Agnes WATSON 44, Weaver's Wife
Son: William WATSON 22, White Stone Quarry Labourer
Son: James WATSON 20, Cotton Weaver
Son: Matthew WATSON 16, Cotton Weaver
Son: John WATSON 13, Cotton Weaver
Son: Isabella WATSON 10, Cotton Weaver
Dau: Margaret WATSON 8, Cotton Weaver
Dau: Agnes WATSON 6,
Dau: Janet WATSON 11mths
ALL born Condorrat

Mary not there in 1861.  That's because she got married…..maybe to a cousin, maybe not:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTG4-NLK
MARRIED 31 Dec 1858, Cumbernauld
Mary WATSON
Alexander WALKER

And had issue (which appear to follow a naming pattern - ie:  1st daughter and 2nd son, parents of the mother):
Agnes 1859, Cumbernauld
John 1861
William 1863

And here is Mary Watson Walker in 1861, with husband and children:
Cumbernauld Rd, Cumbernauld
Head: Alex WALKER 24, Cotton Weaver,
Wife: Mary WALKER 24, Cotton Winder,
Dau: Agnes WALKER 2
Son: John WALKER 2 days
All born Condorrat

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 August 14 04:45 BST (UK) »
Have so far lost the trail after 1861…..except that Scotland's People indexes the following singular entry, who seems like it could the daughter who died  as recorded in the Bible:

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Agnes WALKER, age 4 (born abt 1859)
Death registered Cumberbauld, Dunbartonshire, 1863

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 August 14 05:54 BST (UK) »
Daughters name Agnes Died 12 mar. 1860
Alexander !0 Aug.1869
James 15 Aug.1870
Alexander Edward 1880
All three sons died in Turkey That's why I think Military.
I believe Condurant is some place in Turkey. It states tchi Turkey place of son deaths.
Bible would be very expensive at that time. Had to be well to do.
Believe British military.
Thanks for your reply.

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 August 14 08:22 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.

The three sons' deaths were all registered with the British consul at Kustendji (aka Kustendje or Constanza, then in the Ottoman Empire but now known as Constanta in modern Romania).  It is a historically important Black Sea port.

You can order a death certificate for one or more of them to discover more information by using index details obtainable on Findmypast to complete the GRO's overseas events form.  NB the consular registrations are civilian rather than military records so (consistent with what Ambly has found) there is no reason at the moment to think the family was a military one.  There would have been many commercial opportunities in the Ottoman Empire at that time.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Mary Watson Walker born 31 Aug. 1836 Died 23 Sept. 1896
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 August 14 08:38 BST (UK) »
There is also a consular death registration for Mary Walker registered 1896-1900 at Galatz, a River Danube port then under Ottoman rule but now known as Galati in modern Romania.

Also at Galatz is a consular death registration for Alexander Walker (the name of Mary's husband as found by Ambly), 1901-1905.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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