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Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« on: Thursday 04 September 14 12:26 BST (UK) »
I have the death cert for william George Varney who died on 1st Sept 1939 at King Edward 7th Hospital in Windsor- it shows that he died of Pneumonia following an accidental fall and that the death cert was issued following an inquest on 2nd Sept 1939. His normal address is shown, correctly, as on the Isle of Wight but I really want to know why he was in the Windsor area when he fell and subsequently died. Even more curiously, his widow died in 1945 at what would appear to be a nursing home or similar in the Windsor area, with her daughter being the informant, of the same address in Windsor. It is all very curious as William George Varney was a Whitesmith by trade and came from a long standing family in Cowes, isle of Wight- and they were all working class people. I would love to know what the connection with the Windsor area was all about but i have drawn an absolute blank on everything so far. i last looked at these files 3 years ago and am now having another bite at this tough cherry! Any ideas would be really welcome.
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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 September 14 13:16 BST (UK) »
Even more curiously, his widow died in 1945 at what would appear to be a nursing home or similar in the Windsor area, with her daughter being the informant, of the same address in Windsor.

What was the address on this death certificate and the names of Georges wife & daughter

previous post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=572183.

Wife Kate daughter Martha - address Pinewood House, Sunninghill.

Off to see what I can find that is new since your last post, does it give an occupation for the daughter   ;D

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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 September 14 16:14 BST (UK) »
Have you checked to see what types of illnesses the hospital treated.  As this could be a clue as to why he was not in a hospital on the IoW.  I would also imagine at this time any hospitals on the IoW would have been the 'cottage' variety and not able to deal with certain illnesses.

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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 September 14 16:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you for trying to help me! William George Varney died in 1939 at King Edward 7th Hospital Windsor- from pneumonia following an accidental fall- he died on 1st Sept and the cert was issued on 2nd September by the coroner following an inquest. His address on the cert is given as his hime address on the Isle of wight- so i can only assume he was visiting someone possibly- he was aged 71.
His wife then died on 18th October 1945 in Pinewood house, Larch Avenue, Sunninghill- aged 77 - from coronoary thrombosis and acute heart failure, myocardial degeneration and arterial sclerosis. the only possible clue here is the fact that the informant for this death was her daughter martha who gave her own address as Pinewood House also- so possibly Martha was a nurse or employee at Pinewood House and had arranged for her widowed mother to come and stay there to be nursed. It would be really good to be able to find out anything about pinewood House at that time- as I understand it has since been demolished and 2 very luxurious mansions now stand on the site! The location of the death of both William Varney and his wife Kate, so fart from their lifelong home on the Isle of Wight is very curious indeed. I cannot find out what happened to the spinster daughter Martha Kate Varney after her mother died in 1945- she was born 1897 and she also had a brother Bertram W Varney born 1892. Both Bertram and Martha are at home with their parents William and Kate on the Isle of Wight in 1911 but I cannot find anything about them beyond that Census- and the fact that Martha was with her mother at Pinewood House when she died in 1945. Any help really welcome!! :)
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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 September 14 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Queenswood 1,

Don't know if any of this will help but...

There is a probate record for a will for a Martha Kate Varney who died in 1945.


As regards Bertram William Varney, nothing concrete, but maybe one or two possibles...

A Bertram Varnes shows up in the WW1 Service Records although I couldn't see a matching medal index card though!

Also 4 references to a B W Varney in the British Phonebooks, 1880-1984 in Oxford.

Apologies, if these are something that you have already covered or found. Although I hope that they do help! ;D

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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 September 14 18:37 BST (UK) »


There is a probate record for a will for a Martha Kate Varney who died in 1945

That one is a married woman, wife of George Frederick Varney
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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 September 14 18:46 BST (UK) »
What evidence have you found that Pinewood House was a hospital or nursing home?
Could it not just have been the daughters home address, and mum (sorry not sure we have her name) was just visiting her, or maybe had gone to live with her.
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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 September 14 20:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you all! yes- Martha Kate Varney death in 1945 is not the right one- she was married, whilst my Martha Kate Varney was still a spinster in 1945 when her mother died.

I have no idea what Pinewood House, Larch Avenue, Sunninghill, windsor was in 1945- but it seems very strange that both Martha a dn her parents came from working class backgrounds and so i am assuming this large house was either a nursing home or Martha was probably working there- with possibly a very sick mother staying with her. I have no idea what Martha did between 1911 Census- when she was at home on the IOW with her parents, aged 13, to when she re-appeared in 1945 to be living at Pinewood House in Sunninghill, and is present at the death of her mother at this address.

Thank you very much indeed for Bertram Varnes on WW1 records- certainly sounds hopefil and I will try and investigate that one.

Really need to find out what Pinewood House was in 1945- or try and find some info on Martha Kate Varney- the daughter, during the years between the 2 wars.

And why was their father in the Windsor area when he died as a result of an accident in 1939 yet his residential address was still on the Isle of Wight.

Lots of mysteries!

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Re: Accidental death inquest in Windsor 1939
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 September 14 20:25 BST (UK) »
King Edward VIIth hospital was a small cottage hospital serving Windsor ...now outpatients hospital keeping its historic frontage.Im sure it wasn't a specialist hospital.
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