Great Staughton - Anthony Handley

[bolttail]

Does anyone have any information on the Handley family of Great Staughton?

Benjamin Hanley baptized on the 22nd October 1770 at Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire.  Father Anthony Hanley. No mother named.

Ann Handley baptized on the 11th January 1778 at Great Staughton, Huntingdonshire. (About two miles from Kimbolton). Father: Anthony Handley. Mother: Esther.

Anthony Handley buried at Great Staughton on the 5th April 1779. Thought to be the father of the above children, but entry could relate to an unbaptized infant.

Anthony is believed to have married Esther Foster at Pontefract on the 8th October 1769. Might have worked as a gardener (on a large estate?).

Anybody know what happened to Esther and the two children? Any small fragment gratefully received.

[bedfordshire boy]

There are no marriages in Hunts for Esther, Benjamin or Ann Handley. Perhaps Esther went back to Yorks after Anthony's death.

[bolttail]

Yes, that's what I'm thinking. I have a marriage for a Benjamin Handley just south of Sheffield in 1812. There are reasons to believe that he was the 1770 Huntingtonshire baptized Benjamin.
Obviously if there's any evidence that this last mentioned child grew up and had a life elsewhere, then my theory bites the dust and I have to look for new parents for my 3g grandfather.

Many thanks for the reply. The 'nil return' isn't a disappointment.

[dobfarm]

The fact that this Anthony was a gardener, (now proved) not only he could have moved South to Kimbolton Huntingdonshire after marriage 1769 in Pontefract, but what you don't mention is he had already moved some distance from his home parish of Aston parish (Rotherham ) to Pontefract at some point before marriage. With his trade as a gardener, both moves would fit your theory of working for a wealthy household as a servant and moving about the country with his employers household. (His thought Grandson Charles Handley b 1818 Hatfield son of Benjamin b 1770 Kimbolton Huntingtodonshire the saddler, was also gardener at some point in the census years near Mexborough)

After Anthony's death 1779, Esther and children could have continued being cared for by the estate house hold, son Benjamin starting his working/learning life within the household-?, mother Esther may have been working in the household, infant Ann taken care of in the within the staff ongoings. The other option is she was sent to her home parish of birth or Anthony's home parish of birth for support from the parish overseers or grandparents or remarried.

Boys them days from 10 years onwards followed their education into trade or work! not the mothers apron strings till marriage of their own. Therefore a parting with mother widow Esther and son Benjamin being his work or education into work is logical and daugher Ann Handley b 1778 went with her mother Esther to a place unknown, and seeing Ann Handley b 1778 poping up in another part of the country at a later date of marriage would have no bearing on Benjamin's life or places in his later life.

No parish information in Huntingdonshire after 1779 of these Handley's till Benjamin Handley  pops up in Dronfield marriage 1812 parish in Derbyshire, Dronfield Parish boundary line with Aston parish in Yorkshire that abodes in the parish's did overlap. The Rotherham & Doncaster general area Handley's family trades, along with Darwent families were Farmers, Shoemakers. Tanners, Saddlers, Blacksmith/tanner combined trade, Malster /brewer, Innkeepers & Saddlers some combined trades.

Benjamin Handley marriage 1812 Dronfield ( thought son of Anthony Handley b 1730 in Aston Parish) being a saddler by trade would have  spent years learning that trade   and that is a hard fact !!!!

Its sparse but likely logical with locations & family trades etc

[bolttail]

Many thanks for your contribution. I think what you say is a fair account of the way things were in the 18th , and well into the 19th, century. You didn't get much of a childhood. At nearly ten, Benjamin would have probably been put into some form of apprenticeship, either by relatives or the parish overseers of the poor. No child support payments for Esther.

[dobfarm]

There is alot for us to learn about 18th & 19th century, we take for granted today many thing as modern tech.

Note the front wheel on the Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot's Steam waggon 1769

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_steam_road_vehicles

[bedfordshire boy]

The Duke of Manchester's family seat was Kimbolton Castle. It might be interesting to research any property they may have held in Yorkshire.

[dobfarm]

Hi bedfordshire boy

Nothing came up for the Duke of Manchester but the research online on him lead to another rich lot of who's, who's -who may have employed gardeners 1769 to 1779 

Bolttail

Check the census years against places and jobs of thought grandsons of Anthony being Benjamin Handley B 1815 Chesterfield  and Charles Handley Hatfield against lands owned by this family that you can research online or library. Benjamin was a batman to some rich family 

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The Gally's (Galley's)

Lord of the manor Henry Galley of Perry, at side of lake Grafham water near Great Staughton

http://calm.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=KHAC0%2f90&pos=1


Firbeck Hall Deeds

Henry Gally, esquire  FHD/185  1795


... Situate in the County of Huntingdon, in him and his heirs, in exchange for another estate of greater value, in the County of York, to be settled in lieu thereof.

http://apps.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=199-fhd&cid=-1#-1

They lived at Langold Hall, and Firbeck Hall and were responsible for the construction of Langold Lake.
 
 Rev Henry Gally died 7th August, 1769, and his widow, in 1784. They left two sons John and Henry.


http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/h/gknight.htm


Firbeck Hall

http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk/district/firbeck.htm

page 409 Kingsforth

http://sytimescapes.org.uk/files/uploads/pdfs/reports/04-Final-Report-Rotherham-Character-Zone-Descriptions.pdf



Henry son of Henry Gally of Firbeck Hall and Langold park

http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1790-1820/member/gally-knight-henry-1786-1846


Langold in the parish of Laughton le morthen



http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JVkJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA229&lpg=PA229&dq=henry+galley+laughton&source=bl&ots=mVdqWJZihN&sig=fxE5F_uiOuftSpIkopEc6mHcB2I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eOAlVLP5F46rPMmRgRA&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=henry%20galley%20laughton&f=false

 Hensall village is near Knottingley & Eggborough 1769

(Esther Foster came from Knottingley wife of Anthony Handley married Pontefract parish 1769)

DDCL/2012 22-23 May 1769

Reverend Henry Gally, Rector of St Giles, Middlesex, Doctor of Divinity and Elizabeth his wife 2) William Eamonson of Lazingcroft, Barnwick in Elmet, gentleman Property: as described in DDCL/2008 and freehold part of 4 acres of land in the Fields of Hensall

http://apps.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=047-ddcl_2-1&cid=1-3-18-13#1-3-18-13

Tithes in Perry in Great Staughton were in 1771 conveyed by George Elliott and others to Robert Godley senior and tithes in Great Staughton by William Henry Chauncey and others to Henry Gally in 1775   and by John Hughes and his wife Sarah to Bernard Baldwin in 1787.

(Ann Handley Baptism 1778 Great Staughton of Anthony and Esther Handley)

From: 'Parishes: Great Staughton', A History of the County of Huntingdon: Volume 2 (1932),

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42514&strquery=henry+galley

Page 645

Bottom entry Firbeck Hall, Tickhill. Henry Galley Knight


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=d5xbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA645&lpg=PA645&dq=henry+galley+esquire&source=bl&ots=rN7meGE2xx&sig=uT73j7evC5YF6-X-3USg_BABmtE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rtglVJCRHcjHPde0gfgO&ved=0CDMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=henry%20galley%20esquire&f=false

[bolttail]

Thanks folks. That should keep me amused for quite some time. I have tried for years to find Benjamin Handley (bapt. Chesterfield 1815) in the 1841 census, but without success. If he's there, his name must have been misspelled or mistranslated.