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Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 23:47 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Looking for passenger William Chambers Young.
1.   Looking for information on a passenger named William Chambers Young. He would have   been around 20 years old at the time of departure from England.
2.   He left England between the years 1840-1850 to go to New Zealand or Australia.
3.   He might have travelled with his brother James Hammond Young.
4.   I know of him in Tonga in the late 1840’s.
5.   He settled in Tonga in the early 1850’s.

I am looking for any information on ships or passenger lists he might be on.

Thank you for your help and time,
Hera Toutai

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Re: Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 14 01:20 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Newspapers often had names of passengers on shipping (coastal traders, South Seas voyages, inter-colonial, and from ports around the globe)

New Zealand digitised newspapers (ongoing project) http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
Australia digitised newspapers (ongoing project) http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Familysearch images of passenger lists (ongoing project)  https://familysearch.org/search  (select ‘search’ and ‘records’ option location, Aust and NZ are both separately listed there, not yet fully back to the 1840s for NZ)
Also
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/  (another ongoing project) Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters
NZ Archives http://archives.govt.nz/resources/research-resources/searching-passenger-lists (another ongoing project “new entries being added all the time”
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/lists.htm

And of course :

RootsChat resources boards for both Australia (each of the six states and the two territories have separate sub-boards) and New Zealand.  There’s live links to many resources, particularly passenger lists:
Australia http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=399.0
New Zealand http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=299.0

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Re: Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 14 18:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks majm.
Now I have places to look,

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Re: Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 October 14 06:07 BST (UK) »
Pacific, you also need to be aware that not everyone was listed as a passenger in that era, even if paying passengers.  Steerage passengers are sometimes, frustratingly, listed as "plus 13 steerage passengers", with only cabin class people being named individually.   :'( :'(   :'(

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Re: Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 October 14 07:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I don't know if you have seen this notice in Trove?:

"If Mr. James Hammond Young, who formerly had a Cattle Station with Captain Bunbury in the Grampians, Port Phillip, sees this advertisement, he is anxiously requested to leave his address, directed to H. C. Y., Herald Office, or on board the barque Fatima."

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Tuesday 2 March 1852, page 3
(http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12934766)
...and again...
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Thursday 4 March 1852, page 4
(http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12934820)

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Re: Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 October 14 07:42 BST (UK) »

Looking at the "Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters", Fatima arrived 29 Feb 1852 at Port Jackson, NSW. It is a short passenger list but there are a Mr and Mrs Young listed as cabin passengers.

The transcribed list is here (and a link to the original is on the same page):
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1852/02/064fat.htm

These may not be the ones you are looking for, but it is worth considering. They may be other relatives? Or maybe "H" in the advertisement was misprinted and should have been a "W"? Was William married?

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Re: Passenger from England to New Zealand or Australia 1840's-1850's.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 October 14 08:48 BST (UK) »

Actually, looking at this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=394431.0

...it looks like they may be the same ones?