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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #18 on: Monday 03 November 14 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Can't see a marriage for William & Ruth.
This must be Isabella's death:
Jun 1900
Matthews  Isabella  53  Nuneaton  6d 310
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #19 on: Monday 03 November 14 15:16 GMT (UK) »
marriage dec quarter v1858 Foleshill district 6d 588 to Lucy Whyment other poss bride Ann Davies Edwards. No other likely Lucy matches in the area.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #20 on: Monday 03 November 14 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Going back to the Prakel side, has anyone found Frederic in 1881? His wife Elizabeth is Head occ publican with two children - Alfred Lewis Williams who is down as her son. The census scan shows his surname was first dittoed to be Prakel then crossed out and Williams added. He is born about 1870.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #21 on: Monday 03 November 14 15:24 GMT (UK) »
I thought she was called Ruth.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #22 on: Monday 03 November 14 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Ruth was the 1st wife of William Matthews, who married Isabella after her death and they were the parents of Abraham who was the father of Maud.
It is getting a bit confusing doing two branches at once.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #23 on: Monday 03 November 14 15:37 GMT (UK) »
And in 1891 Frederic is with his children and Elizabeth is missing. 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #24 on: Monday 03 November 14 16:00 GMT (UK) »
William's birth + siblings:
Thomas Matthews 30 Jul 1815
Thomas Matthews 4 May 1817
Abraham Matthews 19 Jul 1818
Harriet Matthews 5 Jan 1823
Priscella Matthews 3 Jul 1825
Elizabeth Matthews 22 Apr 1827
Jane Matthews Nov 1829
Maria Matthews 8 Jul 1831
Mary Ann Matthews 24 Jul 1831
Thomas Matthews 1 Jun 1834
Emma Matthews 6 Aug 1837
William Matthews born 10 Nov 1839 Bapt. 8 Dec 1839
Parents:
Thomas a collier
Ann Hammersley
M. 6/2/1815 Bedworth
Wit:
William Matthews
George Hammersley

This looks like Thomas + siblings:
Mary Matthews 18 Nov 1781
William Matthews 16 Nov 1783 (witness)
Sarah Matthews 10 Sep 1786
John Matthews 31 May 1789
Thomas Matthews 13 Nov 1791
Ann Matthews 5 Apr 1795
Joseph Matthews  4 Jun 1797
Elizabeth Matthews 1 Jun 1800
Abraham Matthews 18 Mar 1802
Ann Matthews 24 Mar 1805
Parents Thomas & Jane Harper
M. 29/8/1781 Bedworth


 
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #25 on: Monday 03 November 14 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I am so pleased that you have found some of my mothers family, as Maud ( mum) would never tell any of us about her life  or family she only said that her mother passed away giving birth to her, I did not really have any thing to go on..
I still do not know if she ever did marry Casper Prakel, I do not know if you can tell me did mothers family or fathers family ever have any Romany Gypsy in the blood line(s) as Mother use to say we did I do not know if that was at all true..

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Re: Do any one know any of my family PRAKEL
« Reply #26 on: Monday 03 November 14 18:03 GMT (UK) »
There's nothing so far that would indicate that, certainly not on the Matthews side of the family anyway.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/