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1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« on: Saturday 02 July 05 21:34 BST (UK) »
Looking for Emanuel Frederick GRIFFIN b.1840 Aston Dist. parents and siblings.
Father - Nathaniel GRIFFIN b. Abt. 1798 Coaley, Gloucestershire.
Mother - Lois b. Abt. 1799 Gloucestershire.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.  ???
WEBB - KENT - Biddenden, Tenterden, Newington.
HORN - KENT - Newington, Faversham.
WHITE - KENT - Wrotham.
NAYLOR - KENT - Hartlip, Rainham.
FILMER - KENT & Worldwide.
CLINCH & HALES - KENT.
HARRIS - ESSEX
DICKINSON - HERTS.
COLLINS - OXFORDSHIRE - LONDON.
BRIMACOMBE, CARDER - OATS - DEVON.
JARVIS - KENT - LONDON.

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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 July 05 21:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek
Is there any more info. on Aston ie. Parish or street.Jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 July 05 22:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim

The 1871 Census shows them as Gold Plating Makers - Living 82, Spencer Street, Birmingham. Still trying to trace on 1861.

Thanks Derek. Australia.
WEBB - KENT - Biddenden, Tenterden, Newington.
HORN - KENT - Newington, Faversham.
WHITE - KENT - Wrotham.
NAYLOR - KENT - Hartlip, Rainham.
FILMER - KENT & Worldwide.
CLINCH & HALES - KENT.
HARRIS - ESSEX
DICKINSON - HERTS.
COLLINS - OXFORDSHIRE - LONDON.
BRIMACOMBE, CARDER - OATS - DEVON.
JARVIS - KENT - LONDON.

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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 July 05 22:19 BST (UK) »
This is the only Emmanuel Griffin
on the 1851 census.


Maria  GRIFFIN   Head   M   47   F   Noncomposmentas   Bishops ...-War
Emmanuel  GRIFFIN   Son   U   12   M   Errand Boy   St Nichs ...-War
   Address:   Bridge Row, Warwickshire
   Census Place:   Warwick St Nicholas Warwickshire, Warwickshire
   PRO Reference:   HO/107/2073   Folio:   535   Page:   17   
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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 July 05 04:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek,
I found your family on the 1861 census:

Ladywood, Birmingham
Back of 134 Sandpitts
Nathaniel Griffin  Head  62  Sword Cutter  Coley, Glos
Lois Griffin  Wife  62  Coley, Glos
Imanuel Griffin  Son 20 Gold Smith  Birmingham, Warks
RG9/2130  Folio 109  Page 14

I can't find them on the 1851 but I did find this on IGI

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp


Emanuel Greffin born 16 Oct 1840
Christened 22 November 1840 Aston Juxta, Warwickshire
Parents: Nathanael and Lois

Doing a parent search I also found two more children:
Stephen Alexander Griffin Born 12 March 1838
Christened 16 April 1838 Aston Juxta, Warks
and
Kezia Griffin born 13 Jan 1833
Christened 6 March 1833 St. Phillips, Birmingham

I also found a marriage for Nathanial Griffin and Lois Smith. 13 December 1819, Coaley, Glos.
It is submittedby an LDS member so.....may be suspect...but worth checking the parish record.

You can probably get the birth cert for Emanuel from the Birmingham Register Office (always assuming that his birth was registered! In the early days of registration...one never knows!)
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/registeroffice.bcc

Births in Aston Juxta are recorded in Birmingham

I have had good luck with the B'ham reg office. They are very helpful

I have the 1841 census cd's and will have a look through Aston...but...it covers a lot of ground...so it may take a while!

But...if I don't get back to you...don't  give up....the 1841 census is slowly...very slowly ..coming on line and you will find it at:
http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1841/index_1841.html

Hope this helps
Good luck with your search
India







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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 July 05 20:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Indie

Thanks for all that help, really appreciated, also thaks for taking the time to do some lookup on the 1841 Census.

Good on yer mate

Derek. Australia.
WEBB - KENT - Biddenden, Tenterden, Newington.
HORN - KENT - Newington, Faversham.
WHITE - KENT - Wrotham.
NAYLOR - KENT - Hartlip, Rainham.
FILMER - KENT & Worldwide.
CLINCH & HALES - KENT.
HARRIS - ESSEX
DICKINSON - HERTS.
COLLINS - OXFORDSHIRE - LONDON.
BRIMACOMBE, CARDER - OATS - DEVON.
JARVIS - KENT - LONDON.

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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 September 18 06:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek,
Not the person you are searching for, but about the same family so a little more info. in Antwerp exist one old alienfile (date 14or16-07-1874) from a son Nathaniel, from this parents Nathaniel Griffin & Louise Smith. So the son was once in Antwerp with his family. File info:

Nathaniel (occup.:Clerk)
b. 7 oct. 1828, Birmingham.
m. in Aston on 29 jul. 1854 with,
Ryland Margaret Crawford
b. 9 nov. 1832, Birmingham

2 children:
Emilie Blanche b. 9 nov. 1858 Aston
Howard b. 22 sep. 1861 Aston

Last official address abroad: Handsworth,Brimingham Queensheadlane, Brougham House

Parents from Nathaniel:
Nathaniel, age 78, b. Coaley (filedate1874 =+- b.1796)
Louise Smith, age 76, b. Coaley (filedate1874 =+- b.1798)

They arrived in Belgium, Antwerp: 9 nov. 1873.
No more info than this.

There are also files on names:
Griffin   Allen Josiah  b. +-1843 Lyme
Griffin   Harriet Louise  age 4.5 in 1882 b. London

Griffin   Anne  b. 15/10/1814 Bristol
Griffin   Bridget  b. 16/01/1894 Tubbert

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Source to database in Antwerp
(cityarchive of Antwerp 'Felixarchief'):

📌 Source 1
cityarchive FELIXARCHIVE in Antwerp:
http://zoeken.felixarchief.be/zHome/Home.aspx?f=100&inv=2962

(look at the long blue bar)
1st select in the first column: 'FAMILIENAAM' (Surname)
2nd 'BEVAT' (contains) and
3rd type a piece of a surname + Enter

*Example 'HLIN' instead of McLaughlin so you get variants
**Also 'Y' or 'IJ' gives gives a difference, try out both (!) Example: Zwijsen / Zwysen

***If a file is Not public via the above link, it's an option to try out familysearch, it is possible the file is publicly published there (files up to number nr. 214920-214980, 1925-1930 are published on Familysearch)
___________
📌 Source 2 via familysearch:
(look at the filenumbers fist, some are the same as in the above database via Felixarchive(!))

► Step 1 INDEX; only remember the filenumber
www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1477769?collectionNameFilter=false

► Step 2 FILENUMBERS;
look for the link where your needed filenumber in fits and browse through the microfilm
*notice that filenumbers are written in the top-left-corner so you can follow where you are on the microfilm between files. www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://familysearch.org/recapi/sord/collection/2023926/waypoints

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Guide and more info about the archive in Antwerp, look at the geni project (in Dutch and English - select language button below the title/ left from the project photo)
www.geni.com/projects/Belgium-Antwerp-Police-Immigration-files/43538

I advise to try out other familynames in the database, files after 1918 contain photos, never know...

Good luck
🍀
With kind regards,
Veronique
Belgian


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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 September 18 06:58 BST (UK) »
The child Stephen Alexander Griffin was buried 28 March 1839 age 1 son of Nathanial and Lois Griffin at Aston St James abode Nechells.

1841 census Duddeston and Nechells Warwickshire
Park Mill Lane
Nathanial Griffin 40 Retail Brewer not born in county
Lois 40                                       not born in county
Caroline 20                                 nor born in county
Nathanial 13 born in county
Emanuel 7 months born in county.

It looks like Emanuel was registered as Simon, 1840 December Quarter Aston Union vol16 page 168 mmn Smith.   

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Re: 1841 - 1851 Census Lookup - GRIFFIN - Aston/Birmingham area.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 September 18 07:11 BST (UK) »
Derek started this thread way back in 2005, and hasn't been on rootschat for over fours years, but if he still has the same email address he should receive notifications of replies. Here's hoping.  :)