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Offline olleym

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1911 Census
« on: Sunday 07 December 14 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Family search provides the following details from the 1911 census;
Event Type:   
Event Date:   
Gender:   
Age:   
Birthplace:   
Schedule Type:   
Registration District:   
Sub-District:   
Parish:   
County:

With a link to find my past for more info.

As the website is a free opensource, surely the info quoted above is considered to be in the public domain and can be disseminated on Rootschat?

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Re: 1911 Census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 December 14 23:07 GMT (UK) »
See this thread - already discussed:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=631030.0


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Re: 1911 Census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 December 14 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Many posts contain info re: the link to the 1911 from FS.

Basically - any info that can be found by manipulating the free 1911 index or FS is acceptable.

What cannot be published is info that is only available by paying to view the full entry (eg)

Number of years married
Number of children born/died
Address
Occupation
Names and details of other persons in the household but with a different surname to the householder

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Re: 1911 Census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 December 14 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gadget & CaroleW

Mark
Olleys in Essex


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Re: 1911 Census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 December 14 23:26 GMT (UK) »
It is probably not exactly "in the public domain" because as stated on every Rootschat page "Census information is Crown Copyright", but it is accepted that a census record can be reproduced for research purposes.

What you do not get on that FamilySearch entry, is the family relationship between the person and the rest of the household.  That is only available on paying sites.  (Unlike for 1871 and 1881, where FS lists the household members.)

What I understand Rootschat policy says, is that members are not allowed to ask other members with subscriptions to do lookups, as that goes beyond what is allowed in the contract the member with the subscription has accepted.  Of course no-one has ever gone to court for this so whether this fear is justified is unprovable, but Rootschat owns the site and is entitled to lay down rules on use of the site.

Sometimes you see someone saying "1911 lookups are not allowed for copyright reasons". That's just plain wrong as the copyright is the same for each census. 
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Re: 1911 Census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 December 14 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Sometimes you see someone saying "1911 lookups are not allowed for copyright reasons". That's just plain wrong as the copyright is the same for each census.

The copyright for the images of the 1911 census is owned by BrightSolid - owners of FindMyPast and GenesReunited!

Which is very different to that of previous censuses - which do not have the household schedules, only the enumerators copy.
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