Baptism Marriage Death

[Dazville]

Hi Everybody

I was hoping somebody may have the registers for Hartshill Stoke available on CD or microfiche etc.

Would anybody be so kind to try and locate the following tricky devils!

Marriage or Death for

Ethel Bishop has a birth date of 11 .12. 1893 and baptism of 11.5.1893
(Parents Edward Bishop & Lizzie) possible death 1893-1894..

Marriage or Death for

Elsie Bishop birth 30.10.1894 baptism of 11.4.1895
(Parents Edward Bishop & Lizzie)


Baptism or Death for

Mabel Bishop birth 30.11.1896 married Thomas Stansfield 1917.


I have subscriptions but have limited info on them.

Many thanks to you all.

Daz

[lizdb]

Death
 Oct/Nov/Dec 1893
Stoke upon Trent
Ref 6b 155
Ethel Bishop age 0

Birth
Jan/Feb/Mar 1893
Stoke on Trent
Ref 6b 241
Ethel Bishop

I would hazzard a guess that her birth was therefore 11 Dec 1892 (not 1893), registered in the New Year 1893, chr in May 1893, and died in Oct-Dec 1893 before her first birthday.

[Dazville]

Hi
Thanks for this.. However I need parish records not the GRO references

I managed to view baptism record for Ethel and must be recorded wrong as you have pointed out,although the original does state birth 1893 surely it must be 1892..

Thanks again..

Daz

[lizdb]

Well, she couldnt have been christened before she was born, so if Chr record is May 1893, then birth could not have been Dec1893.
That is why I checked tbe GRO index - to see when she actually was born. And then could have a pretty good idea which was wrong, out of the birth date or the chr date that you had , as clearly both could not be correct.

[wrjones]

Well Daz as far as Ethel Bishop is concerned the stated Birth in the GRO Index is cunningly deceptive!As ever with a lot of births in December,by the time they were registered it was often into January,which is then the stated Birth.

Again now as far as her death is concerned,that it is given Oct/Nov/Dec/ 1893.She could have died at any time during that quarter up to December the Tenth and still be given as 0 year old in any Index.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

As far as Mabel is concerned,her death is given as Mabel Stansfield in Oldham Lancashire in September 1988.The given birthdate is a match!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

As far as Elsie Bishop is concerned;There is a possibility she may have married a Richard Symonds at Newcastle UL St George in 1919.Again there is a possible death of an Elsie Symonds at Stoke-on-Trent in March 1953.Of course for deaths before about 1970 there is no given birthdate in the GRO Death records.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[BumbleB]

Ethel's baptism at Hartshill is entered as:

11 May 1893 - daughter of Edward and Lizzie Bishop of 6 Shelton New Road.  Edward's occupation is Potter's Printer - FindMyPast.

There are no burials at Hartshill for the surname Bishop between 1846 and 1901, other than a William aged 7 months in 1873 - FindMyPast.  No marriages recorded for Hartshill - FindMyPast.

[BumbleB]

Hartshill Burials - FindMyPast

There are a total of 7 burials taking place between 1893 and 1895, none of them in 1894.