Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport

[cando]

I can't find a marriage for Wm DAVENPORT to Fanny but possibly there weren't married as...

Births Sep 1867 
NICKLEN    Elizabeth Jane     Fordingbridge    2b/602

Fordingbridge Registration District included Breamore.

Cando

[4kithnkin]

Thank you Cando, Debra, Judith, Noells and Annette for the incredible assistance and information! ... it didn't help that I was too tired to see the spelling of Breamore.

Fanny and William married 1868 in Fordingbridge, Hampshire.

Cheers,
Kate

Elizabeth Jane Davenport had siblings Mary, Annie, Alice as written on a photo. The photo/postcard taken in England of a house named Cross Trees Braemar apparently where the Davenport family lived.

1881 Census  RG11/1201/24/16
Living at Upper Street, Breamore, Hampshire
DAVENPORT William Head  47 years  Ag lab   All the family born Breamore, Hampshire 
DAVENPORT Fanny  Wife  51 years  Laundress
DAVENPORT Elizabeth J  Dau  12 years  Scholar
DAVENPORT Annie E  Dau  9 years
DAVENPORT Eliza A  Dau 7 years
NICKLEN Mary A D  Step-dau  25 years   Infirmits?
NICKLEN William  Wife's brother  Widow 36 years  Assistant gardener

Cando

[cando]

1871 Census  RG10/1183/Folio/65// 22
Living at Breamore, Hampshire
NICKLEN Thomas  Head  Widower  70 years  All born Breamore, Hampshire
DAVENPORT William  Son-in-law  Married 37 years  Ag lab
DAVENPORT Fanny  Dau  Married 41 years
NICKLEN Mary Ann  Grand dau  15
DAVENPORT Elizabeth J  Grand dau  2

Cando

[Essie]

A Marriage in the Mar Q 1868  at Fordingbridge  2b / 801
Recorded as DEVENPORT  William   &  NICKLEN  Fanny

Essie     

[judb]

So now we have the possibility of Elizabeth having used 2 surnames during her life - (edited - see Reply #24 below) born as NICKLEN 1867, [/color] DAVENPORT and perhaps, RAMSAY.

This looks to be the birth of the child Margarita with two entries - Cando has already posted the birth for Jeannie Dove RAMSAY.

Mar qr, 1898
Margarita Elizabeth C R DAVENPORT, reg Chelsea, Vol 1a, p418
Margarita Elizabeth C R RAMSAY, reg Chelsea, Vol 1a, p418
When did Margaretta go to Canada?

Judith

[4kithnkin]

Thanks Essie and Judith, we have the birth cert for Margretta. She sailed on the S.S. Dominion with the Barnardo children 8 Oct 1908, arrived Quebec on 19 Oct.

Kate

So now we have the possibility of Elizabeth having used at least 3 surnames during her life - born as NICKLEN 1867, changed to DAVENPORT by 1871 and then perhaps, RAMSAY.

This looks to be the birth of the child Margarita with two entries - Cando has already posted the birth for Jeannie Dove RAMSAY.

Mar qr, 1898
Margarita Elizabeth C R DAVENPORT, reg Chelsea, Vol 1a, p418
Margarita Elizabeth C R RAMSAY, reg Chelsea, Vol 1a, p418
When did Margaretta go to Canada?

Judith

[Annette7]

Interesting - I too had come to William and Fanny possibly being her parents before I went to bed and then I discover all this activity when I look at the thread this morning!

Just thought I'd point out that Elizabeth Jane was not born Nicklen - as the 1871 and 1881 census both suggested a birthdate of 1868/69 the 1867 birth as Nicklen didn't seem right.   Have had another look and she was actually born Elizabeth Jane Devenport (same spelling as when her father married) in Mar.qtr.1869 Fordingbridge.

So, Nicklen is not a name she would have used for herself after all so narrows down the possibilities.

Can you tell us the occupation given for Walter F C Ramsay on his daughters birth certificates?

Annette

[cando]

Can you tell us the occupation given for Walter F C Ramsay on his daughters birth certificates?

Is this from a birth cert?

Walter was a Heraldic artist.

Kate

We are no closer to finding Elizabeth Jane DAVENPORT 's husband in Queensland. 

Cando

[jorose]

For Walter:

There are two possibilities b. Hartlepool (not Scotland, but they both seem to have Scottish)
Walter Frederic(k) Campbell Ramsay b. 1874 married 1894 to Rosa Kate Smith in London, and from online trees it seems that she remarried in 1902 (in Hampshire, to Alfred Edward Elborn).  He was born Durham (but may have had Scottish connections).  I believe this is likely to be your man - possibly he scarpered with Elizabeth?

I can see his two daughters with Rosa Kate (Elizabeth Maude Mary b. 1894 and Kathleen Winifred as "Winifred C") as "Ramsey" in the 1901 census in Brown Candover with their Smith grandparents.

There was also a Walter Frederick Campbell Ramsay b. 1879 (birth reg early 1800) also in Hartlepool, son of Daniel and Eliza, and this one did move to Australia (unclear precisely when) and died in NSW 1967.  He, along with what looks like his entire family, moved to NSW on the Cuzco in 1888 - so he is not your man but his presence in Australia may cause some red herrings.

The 1874 Walter:
Born the son of John and Elizabeth Worthy (nee Thompson):
 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX67-4DZ (his birth)
 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNNF-K37 (the marriage)
His mother remarried by 1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3RD-Z7C
Death for John Ramsay, 1875, aged 28 and remarriage for Elizabeth Worthy Ramsey to John Hunter in 1877

Not born in Scotland but definite Scottish connections in the family - his stepfather at minimum.

If Walter and Elizabeth went to Australia, they must have done so under new names.  I also don't see any likely remarriages for Elizabeth under Davenport or Ramsay in England.

Scrolling through a list of Elizabeth Jane deaths in Queensland now - none linked to Davenport or Ramsey but how about:
Jane Elizabeth Robertson, d. 1943, parents not listed but born Hampshire aged 81.